UK General Election 2024 (or 25)

[Derek27]

You can't deny that Brexit is holding us back.

It's not Brexit that's holding us back if anything it's the Remoaners who keep putting obstacles in the way of Brexit. Maybe if the Remoaners could accept they lost and put their efforts behind the country we could do a lot better.

I've forgotten how many billions were going into the NHS as a result of leaving Europe, but what obstacles did "remoaners" put in the way to stop it?

I'm guessing the guy who came up with the figure is a 1.01 trader that works out how much he will win but forgets about his outgoings.

[Michael5482]

You can't deny that Brexit is holding us back.

It's not Brexit that's holding us back if anything it's the Remoaners who keep putting obstacles in the way of Brexit. Maybe if the Remoaners could accept they lost and put their efforts behind the country we could do a lot better.

The only people holding the country back are the Tory's, there're in charge and hold a majority in parliament to implement any policy they wish including Brexit policy's.

However the policy's there trying to implement regarding Brexit are less than the standards what we had when in the EU like lower food standards, less human rights, less rights in the work place the list is endless that they are trying to water down. I'm no fan of the House of Lords but they can see what the Tory's are trying to do so are adamant we have same standards we had in the EU to be moved over into UK legislation.

Absolutely nothing to do with people who voted remain what so ever. Who in there right mind wants lower standards on anything is beyond me nor should the public be expected to accept it.

[greenmark]

You can't deny that Brexit is holding us back.

It's not Brexit that's holding us back if anything it's the Remoaners who keep putting obstacles in the way of Brexit. Maybe if the Remoaners could accept they lost and put their efforts behind the country we could do a lot better.

The only people holding the country back are the Tory's, there're in charge and hold a majority in parliament to implement any policy they wish including Brexit policy's.

However the policy's there trying to implement regarding Brexit are less than the standards what we had when in the EU like lower food standards, less human rights, less rights in the work place the list is endless that they are trying to water down. I'm no fan of the House of Lords but they can see what the Tory's are trying to do so are adamant we have same standards we had in the EU to be moved over into UK legislation.

Absolutely nothing to do with people who voted remain what so ever. Who in there right mind wants lower standards on anything is beyond me nor should the public be expected to accept it.

+1 I was a remainer, but it's done. The debate is over. I would not stand in the way or criticise anything that makes the UK more successful.
The facts are indisputable. Brexit is not working. No independent organisation says Brexit will benefit us in the short/medium term.
But again I'm not whinging or saying I told you so or backing any kind of resistance to something that would make it work.
The first big deal that makes us better, that we couldn't have achieved within the EU I will celebrate it with great joy.

[Archery1969]

The only people holding the country back and your all remainers

Get a flipping grip.

The country voted for brexit and voted the Tories back in with an 80 seat majority.

What flipping planet are you lot on.

Take it up with the people on the flipping door stop you muppets.

Bunch of left wing idiot vampries.

Wake up for fuck sake.

[firlandsfarm]

The only people holding the country back are the Tory's, there're in charge and hold a majority in parliament to implement any policy they wish including Brexit policy's.

However the policy's there trying to implement regarding Brexit are less than the standards what we had when in the EU like lower food standards, less human rights, less rights in the work place the list is endless that they are trying to water down. I'm no fan of the House of Lords but they can see what the Tory's are trying to do so are adamant we have same standards we had in the EU to be moved over into UK legislation.

Absolutely nothing to do with people who voted remain what so ever. Who in there right mind wants lower standards on anything is beyond me nor should the public be expected to accept it.

There's nowt more blind than those who cannot see! If you (not personally) waste your efforts contesting something it will either prevent it from happening, water down the outcome if it happens or slow down it's implementation. Remoaners contest nearly everything and blame Brexit for nearly everything they don't like. Tell a lie often enough and people will believe it!

[Michael5482]

The two posts above are a perfect example of people having no argument telling people to "get a grip" calling them "blind" or "left wing idiot vampires"

Brexit has been and gone and were still waiting for the Vote Leave promises to be delivered no one has stopped them other than the House of Lords (they can circumvent the House of Lords if they want in the end) when they trying to implement something different to what was promised by Vote Leave like for example less food standards. You do want to keep our high food standards do you not or are you willing to to forsake these and start importing less hygienic food?

So the issue is what was promised isn't what there trying to deliver hence people have issue. No matter if you voted leave or remain you do want what was promised right?

One thing they have delivered on is removing VAT on tampons which went completely unopposed I haven't seen anything else delivered that was promised. Still waiting for the 350 million every week to the NHS that may have averted the strikes as 350 mil over 7 years isn't peanuts. Where is it I'd like to know?

[greenmark]

The two posts above are a perfect example of people having no argument telling people to "get a grip" calling them "blind" or "left wing idiot vampires"

Brexit has been and gone and were still waiting for the Vote Leave promises to be delivered no one has stopped them other than the House of Lords (they can circumvent the House of Lords if they want in the end) when they trying to implement something different to what was promised by Vote Leave like for example less food standards. You do want to keep our high food standards do you not or are you willing to to forsake these and start importing less hygienic food?

So the issue is what was promised isn't what there trying to deliver hence people have issue. No matter if you voted leave or remain you do want what was promised right?

One thing they have delivered on is removing VAT on tampons which went completely unopposed I haven't seen anything else delivered that was promised. Still waiting for the 350 million every week to the NHS that may have averted the strikes as 350 mil over 7 years isn't peanuts. Where is it I'd like to know?

I am left of centre. But democracy allows us all to express our opinions, in fact it demands opinions to work at all.
But I must say, Brexit is done, it hasnt delivered, whining about it won't change anything. The unfortunate truth for remainers is that we have to make it work.
I may be wrong, but I can't see another referendum to go back into the EU. Well, not in my lifetime anyhow. So wotcha gonna do? Bleat about how we were duped or just get on with the situation as it is?
But we can vote against the Conservatives at the next election of course.

[Emmson]

Anti-Europeans never accepted the result of the 1975 referendum and they certainly never *moved on*

[sionascaig]

Surely remainers & leavers can agree that Brexit as implemented is a freakin disaster and the folk responsible are those that made the "oven baked" deal and implementation of it.

Personally I can't stick the endless turd polishing. Call it for what it is and move on.



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[Emmson]

I am appalled that these reports of Poland (with all respect to her) is going to supersede dear old Blighty in near future in prosperity. There has to be accountability for what brought us to that catastrophe. We were Great Britain!

Every year we sink further down the league table of GDP per capita and it wasn't Blair or Brown who brought us here. Who the f*ck has been in power for a decade +???

[Archery1969]

I am appalled that these reports of Poland (with all respect to her) is going to supersede dear old Blighty in near future in prosperity. There has to be accountability for what brought us to that catastrophe. We were Great Britain!

Every year we sink further down the league table of GDP per capita and it wasn't Blair or Brown who brought us here. Who the f*ck has been in power for a decade +???

Ask yourself who sold off most of our gold reserves. When they get back in they will probably sell off what’s left. Forgive the pun!

[Emmson]

I am appalled that these reports of Poland (with all respect to her) is going to supersede dear old Blighty in near future in prosperity. There has to be accountability for what brought us to that catastrophe. We were Great Britain!

Every year we sink further down the league table of GDP per capita and it wasn't Blair or Brown who brought us here. Who the f*ck has been in power for a decade +???

Ask yourself who sold off most of our gold reserves. When they get back in they will probably sell off what’s left. Forgive the pun!

That was a mistake but utterly, utterly irrelevant to Britain's decline, Blair and Brown era was a period of prosperity and only came undone because of the 2008 global economic crisis that started in America and engulfed all western nations, Ireland was in a mess but recovered, we never recovered thx to years of Toryism.

[Archangel]

Ask yourself who sold off most of our gold reserves. When they get back in they will probably sell off what’s left. Forgive the pun!

You do seem to be obsessed with the gold

Firstly, GB didnt lose the gold, he sold it. The value of the gold reserves sold off by the UK government between 1999 and 2002 was approximately £3.5 billion. In hindsight it wasnt the best decision Labour ever made but in the grand scheme I dont think its a reason to never vote for a party again!

As it stands, Brexit is costing the economy between £50-100 billion PER YEAR......

[greenmark]

I am appalled that these reports of Poland (with all respect to her) is going to supersede dear old Blighty in near future in prosperity. There has to be accountability for what brought us to that catastrophe. We were Great Britain!

Every year we sink further down the league table of GDP per capita and it wasn't Blair or Brown who brought us here. Who the f*ck has been in power for a decade +???

Ask yourself who sold off most of our gold reserves. When they get back in they will probably sell off what’s left. Forgive the pun!

That was a mistake but utterly, utterly irrelevant to Britain's decline, Blair and Brown era was a period of prosperity and only came undone because of the 2008 global economic crisis that started in America and engulfed all western nations, Ireland was in a mess but recovered, we never recovered thx to years of Toryism.

I agree to an extent, but the bursting of the credit bubble had been predicted (by Vince Cable for one), so Blair and Brown do bear some of the blame. But, yes, for me this current bunch of useless idiots have had long enough. I mean just track back over their tenure and it's a catalogue of incompetence, corruption and decline.
I would not like a Labour govt to be in power for so long, it's a recipe for lazy, party-focussed nonsense.

[Archery1969]

Every sensible person knew Brexit was going to be a disaster. The EU was never going to give the UK a good deal. It’s not in their interests to.

It is what it is. Stop flipping moaning about it. It’s done and main reason the UK will be poor for many decades to come. Who flipping cares anyway.

I knew exactly what I was voting for and paid no attention to the miracle bus or what was put in the press.

Like I said, me and many others just don’t give a toss.