UK General Election 2024 (or 25)

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Derek27
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:23 pm
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Sat Apr 29, 2023 4:07 pm
Nothing wrong with asking for a reference if you disagree with something but you seem to expect proof of everything.
There are far too many spurious 'facts' on the internet and if not challenged there will be exponentially more. We criticise Russia and China for the misinformation they publish with the intention of changing our thoughts so why not ourselves?

A casual chat on a forum (or down the pub), yes, I agree, but a direct, blatant and firm accusation with malice in a public medium is not a casual chat down the pub with a mate!
You asked for proof that the buffoon has £6M in two bank accounts. The point I was making was that the buffoon has a lot of money, there's no doubt about that. The actual amount wasn't relevant in this context. Shaun was asking why he needed a loan. He could have £2M or £20M, it wouldn't matter.
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:29 pm
You asked for proof that the buffoon has £6M in two bank accounts. The point I was making was that the buffoon has a lot of money, there's no doubt about that. The actual amount wasn't relevant in this context. Shaun was asking why he needed a loan. He could have £2M or £20M, it wouldn't matter.
You always seem to want to pick a fight! Who said the amount was relevant, not me. I explained my point in my previous response to you and cannot see where your last comment is relevant towards me. BTW my response to Shaun was light hearted (did you see the " :lol: " ... that's what it's meant to imply!).
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:17 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:29 pm
You asked for proof that the buffoon has £6M in two bank accounts. The point I was making was that the buffoon has a lot of money, there's no doubt about that. The actual amount wasn't relevant in this context. Shaun was asking why he needed a loan. He could have £2M or £20M, it wouldn't matter.
You always seem to want to pick a fight! Who said the amount was relevant, not me. I explained my point in my previous response to you and cannot see where your last comment is relevant towards me. BTW my response to Shaun was light hearted (did you see the " :lol: " ... that's what it's meant to imply!).
I wasn't talking about your response to Shaun. I was referring to Shaun asking Archery why the buffoon needed a loan, who in turn responded to Shaun with the £6M figure, which we now agree was not relevant ... but you asked Archery for proof of the contents of his post from top to bottom!

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Starmer made a complete arse of himself on Sophy's show. I thought being a barrister he'd be sharp-minded and hold his own when questioned. Big mistake attacking Sunak as though he's a desperate underdog and now he's shitting himself in front of Sophy Ridge. :lol:

Looks like we'll have another bumbling PM after the next election, but still, better than Sunak. :)
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Labour's hit odds against

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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:39 pm
I wasn't talking about your response to Shaun. I was referring to Shaun asking Archery why the buffoon needed a loan, who in turn responded to Shaun with the £6M figure, which we now agree was not relevant ... but you asked Archery for proof of the contents of his post from top to bottom!

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Then like the use of Smilies a little clarity would be appreciated. Wars have been started by lack of clarity! And when you combine lack of clarity with a few red herrings it's a wonder anything makes sense! :D

And do you know what ... I know what I asked of Archery, that has never been in dispute in my mind.
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Mon May 01, 2023 4:19 am
... but still, better than Sunak. :)
What makes Sir Soft better than Sunak?
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Mon May 01, 2023 6:54 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:39 pm
I wasn't talking about your response to Shaun. I was referring to Shaun asking Archery why the buffoon needed a loan, who in turn responded to Shaun with the £6M figure, which we now agree was not relevant ... but you asked Archery for proof of the contents of his post from top to bottom!

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Then like the use of Smilies a little clarity would be appreciated. Wars have been started by lack of clarity! And when you combine lack of clarity with a few red herrings it's a wonder anything makes sense! :D

And do you know what ... I know what I asked of Archery, that has never been in dispute in my mind.
Fuck smilies, try using the English language!

I basically just explained what I already said, I haven't changed or corrected anything!

And I wasn't talking about what you asked Archery. It was what Shaun asked Archery, Archery's response to Shaun and you're response to Archery's response to Shaun's question as to why a certain dickhead earning millions needed a loan. You need to follow the thread firlandsfarm.
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Mon May 01, 2023 6:55 am
Derek27 wrote:
Mon May 01, 2023 4:19 am
... but still, better than Sunak. :)
What makes Sir Soft better than Sunak?
Sunak's leading a government he has no control over, that wanted to help increase the income and wealth of billionaires during a cost of living crisis while people are starving, unable to feed their children, unable to see a doctor, dentist, receive urgent cancer treatment or freezing to death in their homes. Though he helped people on low incomes as chancellor, his initial response was, let them starve until the autumn and we'll see what we can do then. Perhaps he realised the deaths of a few thousand people would hinder his chances of becoming PM.

Starmer supports Arsenal and has his heart in the right place, even if he is going to be a PR disaster.
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Derek27 wrote:
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Sunak's leading a government he has no control over, that wanted to help increase the income and wealth of billionaires during a cost of living crisis while people are starving, unable to feed their children, unable to see a doctor, dentist, receive urgent cancer treatment or freezing to death in their homes. Though he helped people on low incomes as chancellor, his initial response was, let them starve until the autumn and we'll see what we can do then. Perhaps he realised the deaths of a few thousand people would hinder his chances of becoming PM.
What a load of biased bollocks!
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Mon May 01, 2023 8:28 am
Derek27 wrote:
Mon May 01, 2023 8:00 am
Sunak's leading a government he has no control over, that wanted to help increase the income and wealth of billionaires during a cost of living crisis while people are starving, unable to feed their children, unable to see a doctor, dentist, receive urgent cancer treatment or freezing to death in their homes. Though he helped people on low incomes as chancellor, his initial response was, let them starve until the autumn and we'll see what we can do then. Perhaps he realised the deaths of a few thousand people would hinder his chances of becoming PM.
What a load of biased bollocks!
Can you be a bit more specific? With the exception of the last sentence, which was light-hearted and indicated by the word "perhaps" (no emoji needed), what do you disagree with?
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon May 01, 2023 8:34 am
Sunak's leading a government he has no control over, that wanted to help increase the income and wealth of billionaires during a cost of living crisis while people are starving, unable to feed their children, unable to see a doctor, dentist, receive urgent cancer treatment or freezing to death in their homes. Though he helped people on low incomes as chancellor, his initial response was, let them starve until the autumn and we'll see what we can do then.
'nuff said!
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Mon May 01, 2023 8:39 am
Derek27 wrote:
Mon May 01, 2023 8:34 am
Sunak's leading a government he has no control over, that wanted to help increase the income and wealth of billionaires during a cost of living crisis while people are starving, unable to feed their children, unable to see a doctor, dentist, receive urgent cancer treatment or freezing to death in their homes. Though he helped people on low incomes as chancellor, his initial response was, let them starve until the autumn and we'll see what we can do then.
'nuff said!
You mean there's nothing in the biased bollocks that you can argue is wrong. :D
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Jesus, my name being banded about on here....

Well, here goes:

1. We all know that if >= £10,000 arrives in your account then banks ask questions (Money laundering rules) and they have to inform HMRC by default. That's a fact, so look it up or ask your bank manager. That's why he didn't transfer it from overseas. He already has enough money, just not in the UK.

2. Lookup BoJo's nett worth. It ranges from $2 million to $89 million. Nobody knows for sure as his income and tax affairs are complicated.

3. Wanting to borrow £800,000, according to a source of mine who i see at conservative party meetings, is to pay hush money and do it in such a way that brings the maxiumum tax benefit. Don't forget points 1 and 2 above. All should start to become clear.

4. Based on point 1 above alone could open the flood gates as HMRC will ask to written declaration on what money and assets are held overseas.

Now, i agree, i have no proof of point 3 above in regard to the first statement, only what I was told by a conservative party member.

But if you read the above then its obvious something rather dodgy is going on with regard to his finances.

Don't forget, I am a BoJo fan, thats common knowledge on here. So i have nothing to gain by seeing him fall even further.

Peace. Its a bank holiday. :)
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon May 01, 2023 8:46 am
You mean there's nothing in the biased bollocks that you can argue is wrong. :D
I argued all of it to be wrong and I notice from your use of " :D " that your comment was in jest therefore some of it is wrong! :lol:
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