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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:22 pm
Archangel wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:20 pm
'Offensive actions' under way in east, Kyiv says

Could the long awaited Spring Offensive be under way
The loses might become to great for even Ukraine to stomach.

We shall see.
The offensive side usually loses 3 times that of the defenders, or so they say
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Looks like Ukraine is struggling for weapons and troops whilst Russia has lots left in the reserve.

Desperate meetings between Zelenskyy and BAE, certainly lots of money to be made by those at the top if the western propaganda can prolong the war for another few years
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alexmr2 wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:02 pm

... if the western propaganda can prolong the war for another few years
Why not? Ruling class create "reality" by bending anything, any facts to their favor.
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If this is the start of the Ukraine's offensive god speed to our Ukrainian brothers.

Hopefully the end is neigh for the terrorist Putin.
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I'm sorry for repeating myself...

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* (they eat human flesh)
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napshnap wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:20 pm
alexmr2 wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:02 pm

... if the western propaganda can prolong the war for another few years
Why not? Ruling class create "reality" by bending anything, any facts to their favor.
Yes just have to follow the money. All it takes is for them to use the media to make the public support the attack Russia agenda and no one will oppose it or try to stop the war and deaths.

Very old propaganda techniques such as blaming the cost of living on the war and the use of emotional manipulation but still works like a charm even in 2023
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alexmr2 wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:30 pm
napshnap wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:20 pm
alexmr2 wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:02 pm

... if the western propaganda can prolong the war for another few years
Why not? Ruling class create "reality" by bending anything, any facts to their favor.
Yes just have to follow the money. All it takes is for them to use the media to make the public support the attack Russia agenda and no one will oppose it or try to stop the war and deaths.

Very old propaganda techniques such as blaming the cost of living on the war and the use of emotional manipulation but still works like a charm even in 2023
Not only propaganda, there are other instruments - "Slovak ex-minister charged for praising Russian war". Freedom of speech my ass!
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All the West needs to do is kick in the door and the Putin regime will start to collapse like the rotten state it is....
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Archangel wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:21 pm
All the West needs to do is kick in the door and the Putin regime will start to collapse like the rotten state it is....
Kick in the door? What do you mean? You can't mean incursion by NATO into Russian territory!
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Go Ukraine.
Smash them all the back to the Kremlin.
Show no mercy on the battlefield.
Give no quarter.
Take no prisoners.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:15 pm
Go Ukraine.
Smash them all the back to the Kremlin.
Show no mercy on the battlefield.
Give no quarter.
Take no prisoners.
Yeah! Let Archery's bunker investments pay already!
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greenmark wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:37 pm
Archangel wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:21 pm
All the West needs to do is kick in the door and the Putin regime will start to collapse like the rotten state it is....
Kick in the door? What do you mean? You can't mean incursion by NATO into Russian territory!
Surprised to find yourself in "Let's saadam that shit!" club? These guys are not about a defence.

offtopic: 1k posts - nice!
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greenmark wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:37 pm
Archangel wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:21 pm
All the West needs to do is kick in the door and the Putin regime will start to collapse like the rotten state it is....
Kick in the door? What do you mean? You can't mean incursion by NATO into Russian territory!
I mean metaphorically kick in the door !
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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:15 pm
Go Ukraine.
Smash them all the back to the Kremlin.
Show no mercy on the battlefield.
Give no quarter.
Take no prisoners.
NO on the last one! but I do want this counter-offensive to be a roaring success, its important for the whole civilized world that it should be a roaring success.

Glory To Ukraine!
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Archangel wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:21 pm
All the West needs to do is kick in the door and the Putin regime will start to collapse like the rotten state it is....
I have read much WW2 history so I know where that quote came from! Hitler on the eve of Operation Barborrossa
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