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napshnap
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greenmark wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:28 pm
napshnap wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:45 pm
greenmark wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 5:34 pm

I don;t understand. Russia sabotages a dam and causes misery and economic/environmental impacts for years to come and you post a cartoon that no-one but you knows what point you're trying to make.

Pfff, "cartoon that no-one but you knows"... Not so long ago dr. David Livesey from this cartoon was an internet phenomenon, everybody was taking about him, do you live under a rock?)

As for this damn dam... You gov will say (they are silent yet, but there is no doubt who will be appointed guilty) russians did it, my gov will say ua and its superfriends did it. It was like that already, with the pipe, remember? These are not the last technogenic disasters we are witnessing. Thank ruling class and their warmongering hyenas.
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How feeble that a "superpower" feels the need to cut a single road at the cost of massive flooding and damage to an economy that he hopes to take control of.

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And screw his army (they are on the lowest side), and cut fresh water supplies for Crimea, and turn south (where Crimea is) into desert. And now think again who benefits and who constantly threatens Crimea.
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greenmark wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:21 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:12 pm
greenmark wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:28 pm
How feeble that a "superpower" feels the need to cut a single road at the cost of massive flooding and damage to an economy that he hopes to take control of.
I don't think the aim was to cut off a single road but to cause chaos, reduce the battlefield and cause pain and misery to thousands of Ukrainians. I'm sure the sadistic narcissist takes great pleasure from human suffering and deserves his place in history alongside Vlad the Impaler.
I don't think pleasure comes into it. It's meglamaniacal cynicism and a lack of of humanity. Putin is like Dracula. An amoral bloodsucker.
And Biden is like a frankenstein, and your pms is like an invisible man (cause they change so fast)) ), so what? You guys went mad about the president, I told you - there will be others and not necessarily better than him. Also there is team behind him, blame the office to)!
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It is crucial that the invader be driven from Ukranian soil before any more barbaric acts can be leashed upon its people
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napshnap wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:42 pm
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Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:21 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:12 pm


I don't think the aim was to cut off a single road but to cause chaos, reduce the battlefield and cause pain and misery to thousands of Ukrainians. I'm sure the sadistic narcissist takes great pleasure from human suffering and deserves his place in history alongside Vlad the Impaler.
I don't think pleasure comes into it. It's meglamaniacal cynicism and a lack of of humanity. Putin is like Dracula. An amoral bloodsucker.
And Biden is like a frankenstein, and your pms is like an invisible man (cause they change so fast)) ), so what? You guys went mad about the president, I told you - there will be others and not necessarily better than him. Also there is team behind him, blame the office to)!
I've said more than once that Putin could be succeeded by an even worse individual.
Here's a theory. Russia is still a Tsarist nation. An autocracy. A tiny minority have all the power. It's corrupt. Sure Russia is resource rich, but its failing because it's corrupt at its core. It will collapse, gently via demcocracy or catastrophically, but it will collapse. Do the maths. 145 million versus even the EU 500 million and US 300 million. It's a no-brainer. What ticks me off is you defend a regime that not only defends but even protects and vaunts oligarchs that are raping your country.
The irony is horrible. "The evil west" proposed by Putin is total cobblers. Putin has unleashed war and misery on Europe ona scale not seen since Hitler.
Putin is an evil man. His so-called relgious zeal is a lie.
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Some stats and data which show the reality of the situation
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alexmr2 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:24 pm
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Some stats and data which show the reality of the situation
Utter rubbish Kermit, go fcuk Piggy and then your mate Putin or just do us all a favour and fcuk off to Russia.
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It's strange how you harden up to images of the suffering in Ukraine, until you see pictures of their little kittens being evacuated from the floods and getting fed some milk.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:32 pm
alexmr2 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:24 pm
ukrainenews.pngukrainenews2.png ukrainestats3.png

Some stats and data which show the reality of the situation
Utter rubbish Kermit, go fcuk Piggy and then your mate Putin or just do us all a favour and fcuk off to Russia.
Thae difference between us is a case study of the difference between someone who thinks using hard facts and data vs someone who thinks emotively and gets emotionally charged unable to deal with the cognitive dissonance. I simply present the facts and don't claim to take any side
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alexmr2 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:24 pm
ukrainenews.pngukrainenews2.png ukrainestats3.png

Some stats and data which show the reality of the situation
Russian electronic warfare: "Eye-watering" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's a comedy site Alex, and "eye-watering" is not a very technical term and sounds as though it's been written by a 10-year-old or somebody with such a mentality. If western weapons are so "ineffective" and the Russian equivalent is "world-beating", why has the war dragged on for so long?
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alexmr2 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:41 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:32 pm
alexmr2 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:24 pm
ukrainenews.pngukrainenews2.png ukrainestats3.png

Some stats and data which show the reality of the situation
Utter rubbish Kermit, go fcuk Piggy and then your mate Putin or just do us all a favour and fcuk off to Russia.
Thae difference between us is a case study of the difference between someone who thinks using hard facts and data vs someone who thinks emotively and gets emotionally charged unable to deal with the cognitive dissonance. I simply present the facts and don't claim to take any side
I think you're delusions are getting worse Alex. Do you actually understand the difference between facts, evidence, claims and opinions?

If you continuously post to support one side you are taking sides. Even if you don't realise it, or convince yourself that you're not, everybody else can see that.

How does "Ukraine doing badly, Russia doing well" amount to a fact, as your graphic depicts?
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I got a special bullet for Kermit.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:29 am
I got a special bullet for Kermit.
Is this the one that has the engraving on it: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"?)
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Either Russia deliberately blew up the dam, or it collapsed as a result of the incompetance of those who were managing it at the time, Russia. Either way, they are responsible. Yet the world looks on at this huge civilian and environmental disaster and does very little. Sunak said yesterday it was a "new low", ok what does that mean, just words, no actions. The UN seems to me like a completely out of date organisation that also makes a lot of noise but does very little. Russia looks on at this and probably thinks, yeah we got away with it again. Now how about we try and "accidentally" leak some radiation from one of the nuclear plants in Ukraine and see what happens!
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Archangel wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:42 am
Either Russia deliberately blew up the dam, or it collapsed as a result of the incompetance of those who were managing it at the time, Russia. Either way, they are responsible. Yet the world looks on at this huge civilian and environmental disaster and does very little. Sunak said yesterday it was a "new low", ok what does that mean, just words, no actions. The UN seems to me like a completely out of date organisation that also makes a lot of noise but does very little. Russia looks on at this and probably thinks, yeah we got away with it again. Now how about we try and "accidentally" leak some radiation from one of the nuclear plants in Ukraine and see what happens!
The road across the dam looks like it was the target for Putin. Total cynicism to damage a vital piece of infrastructure that will take years to repair. And it displays that Putin is genuinely afraid that Ukraine could actually be a more potent opponent than he first thought. Apart from nukes Putin's got nothing other than lobbing drones and missiles from afar.
If it wasn't so serious for the Ukraine people I'd describe it as feeble, but feeble from Russia is still capable of causing misery.
Putin is one nasty piece of work.
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Archangel wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:42 am
Either Russia deliberately blew up the dam, or it collapsed as a result of the incompetance of those who were managing it at the time, Russia. Either way, they are responsible. Yet the world looks on at this huge civilian and environmental disaster and does very little. Sunak said yesterday it was a "new low", ok what does that mean, just words, no actions. The UN seems to me like a completely out of date organisation that also makes a lot of noise but does very little. Russia looks on at this and probably thinks, yeah we got away with it again. Now how about we try and "accidentally" leak some radiation from one of the nuclear plants in Ukraine and see what happens!
Michael Clarke said the most powerful artillery shells in the world could not have destroyed that dam. It must have had high explosives planted around the structure.
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