RANT CORNER

[Archery1969]

I think my partner is soon to be my ex.

She just doesn’t understand why going to the gun shop means there is a new toy in the house.

And trying to make her understand the difference between a .22WMR, .223. .308 and new 7mm Mag is just painful.

[Derek27]

flipping hell!!

Double child killer Colin Pitchfork is ready to be released from prison again, just a year or so after breaching his release conditions. Doesn't anyone on the parole board have a brain?

[Derek27]

Hitler used to have executions video recorded so he can watch it again for his pleasure.

Yet we still have a king who has on his behalf, offenders banged up "at his pleasure".

[Archery1969]

flipping hell!!

Double child killer Colin Pitchfork is ready to be released from prison again, just a year or so after breaching his release conditions. Doesn't anyone on the parole board have a brain?

David Baker, a former police detective who helped capture Pitchfork, believes Pitchfork could deceive the Parole Board and pretend it was safe to release him. Baker maintains Pitchfork is a psychopath and it will never be safe to release him.

[Derek27]

Just spent two minutes swearing my head off at a voice answering machine. Before being put through to a human I got a warning to be respectful!

Perhaps if they didn't prime and antagonise me prior to getting through to a human I wouldn't need the warning!!

[greenmark]

flipping hell!!

Double child killer Colin Pitchfork is ready to be released from prison again, just a year or so after breaching his release conditions. Doesn't anyone on the parole board have a brain?

David Baker, a former police detective who helped capture Pitchfork, believes Pitchfork could deceive the Parole Board and pretend it was safe to release him. Baker maintains Pitchfork is a psychopath and it will never be safe to release him.

Even as someone that believes in redemption thats a very tough call. He was recalled to prison a couple of years ago for approaching girls and women.
But then again:
"The board said the decision to recall Pitchfork to prison in November 2021 was “flawed” because it was based on allegations that were not proved and were based on incorrect information."
Tricky innit?

[Derek27]

flipping hell!!

Double child killer Colin Pitchfork is ready to be released from prison again, just a year or so after breaching his release conditions. Doesn't anyone on the parole board have a brain?

David Baker, a former police detective who helped capture Pitchfork, believes Pitchfork could deceive the Parole Board and pretend it was safe to release him. Baker maintains Pitchfork is a psychopath and it will never be safe to release him.

Even as someone that believes in redemption thats a very tough call. He was recalled to prison a couple of years ago for approaching girls and women.
But then again:
"The board said the decision to recall Pitchfork to prison in November 2021 was “flawed” because it was based on allegations that were not proved and were based on incorrect information."
Tricky innit?

When somebody's murdered two young girls, why do people even bother investigating whether he's safe to be released? He's not a danger in his cell so just leave him there!

[Archery1969]

David Baker, a former police detective who helped capture Pitchfork, believes Pitchfork could deceive the Parole Board and pretend it was safe to release him. Baker maintains Pitchfork is a psychopath and it will never be safe to release him.

Even as someone that believes in redemption thats a very tough call. He was recalled to prison a couple of years ago for approaching girls and women.
But then again:
"The board said the decision to recall Pitchfork to prison in November 2021 was “flawed” because it was based on allegations that were not proved and were based on incorrect information."
Tricky innit?

When somebody's murdered two young girls, why do people even bother investigating whether he's safe to be released? He's not a danger in his cell so just leave him there!

Just put him in a cell with Bronson.

[greenmark]

David Baker, a former police detective who helped capture Pitchfork, believes Pitchfork could deceive the Parole Board and pretend it was safe to release him. Baker maintains Pitchfork is a psychopath and it will never be safe to release him.

Even as someone that believes in redemption thats a very tough call. He was recalled to prison a couple of years ago for approaching girls and women.
But then again:
"The board said the decision to recall Pitchfork to prison in November 2021 was “flawed” because it was based on allegations that were not proved and were based on incorrect information."
Tricky innit?

When somebody's murdered two young girls, why do people even bother investigating whether he's safe to be released? He's not a danger in his cell so just leave him there!

What I'd be interested in is establishing some evidence for how he became what he was/is. Then the psychoological theory suggests you can help someone transform.
Jimmy Boyle was a notoriously violent individual that reformed.
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/232 ... mmy-boyle/

But as I've said before on this general issue, it's ok for me to ask for criminals to be given some leeway to reintegrate, but I wouldn't want them next door to me.

[jimibt]

Even as someone that believes in redemption thats a very tough call. He was recalled to prison a couple of years ago for approaching girls and women.
But then again:
"The board said the decision to recall Pitchfork to prison in November 2021 was “flawed” because it was based on allegations that were not proved and were based on incorrect information."
Tricky innit?

When somebody's murdered two young girls, why do people even bother investigating whether he's safe to be released? He's not a danger in his cell so just leave him there!

What I'd be interested in is establishing some evidence for how he became what he was/is. Then the psychoological theory suggests you can help someone transform.
Jimmy Boyle was a notoriously violent individual that reformed.
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/232 ... mmy-boyle/

But as I've said before on this general issue, it's ok for me to ask for criminals to be given some leeway to reintegrate, but I wouldn't want them next door to me.

i remember reading that book (a sense of freedom) as a teen - that and the cross and the switchblade. i kinda had a penchant for redeemed characters

[Derek27]

Even as someone that believes in redemption thats a very tough call. He was recalled to prison a couple of years ago for approaching girls and women.
But then again:
"The board said the decision to recall Pitchfork to prison in November 2021 was “flawed” because it was based on allegations that were not proved and were based on incorrect information."
Tricky innit?

When somebody's murdered two young girls, why do people even bother investigating whether he's safe to be released? He's not a danger in his cell so just leave him there!

What I'd be interested in is establishing some evidence for how he became what he was/is. Then the psychoological theory suggests you can help someone transform.
Jimmy Boyle was a notoriously violent individual that reformed.
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/232 ... mmy-boyle/

But as I've said before on this general issue, it's ok for me to ask for criminals to be given some leeway to reintegrate, but I wouldn't want them next door to me.

Burglars, muggers, fraudsters, maybe. But taking a life, especially of a young person or child, in a senseless act or for sexual gratification is where I'd draw the line. You don't have any right to a second chance and it's a very high risk that all too often results in more murders and suffering.

[greenmark]

When somebody's murdered two young girls, why do people even bother investigating whether he's safe to be released? He's not a danger in his cell so just leave him there!

What I'd be interested in is establishing some evidence for how he became what he was/is. Then the psychoological theory suggests you can help someone transform.
Jimmy Boyle was a notoriously violent individual that reformed.
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/232 ... mmy-boyle/

But as I've said before on this general issue, it's ok for me to ask for criminals to be given some leeway to reintegrate, but I wouldn't want them next door to me.

Burglars, muggers, fraudsters, maybe. But taking a life, especially of a young person or child, in a senseless act or for sexual gratification is where I'd draw the line. You don't have any right to a second chance and it's a very high risk that all too often results in more murders and suffering.

I asked the question. But I'm inclined to agree with you. However the parole process seems to disagree so perhaps the discussion is not about this case, it's about the process. As an IT person I hated when "process" came into the arena, but I subsequently concluded it was ok, if constraining for innovation.
So if the parole board followed the process we can't argue. If we disagree with the Parole board's process we have democratic avenues to complain.

[Derek27]

What I'd be interested in is establishing some evidence for how he became what he was/is. Then the psychoological theory suggests you can help someone transform.
Jimmy Boyle was a notoriously violent individual that reformed.
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/232 ... mmy-boyle/

But as I've said before on this general issue, it's ok for me to ask for criminals to be given some leeway to reintegrate, but I wouldn't want them next door to me.

Burglars, muggers, fraudsters, maybe. But taking a life, especially of a young person or child, in a senseless act or for sexual gratification is where I'd draw the line. You don't have any right to a second chance and it's a very high risk that all too often results in more murders and suffering.

I asked the question. But I'm inclined to agree with you. However the parole process seems to disagree so perhaps the discussion is not about this case, it's about the process. As an IT person I hated when "process" came into the arena, but I subsequently concluded it was ok, if constraining for innovation.
So if the parole board followed the process we can't argue. If we disagree with the Parole board's process we have democratic avenues to complain.

There are two possibilities. Either people have their brains removed when they start working for the parole board or the focus is on saving money or keeping to a budget, which is probably being squeezed at the moment. It must cost a fortune to keep a prisoner in prison. It won't cost much to let them out and do a bit of paperwork once a month or have the occasional visit from a remand officer.

[greenmark]

Burglars, muggers, fraudsters, maybe. But taking a life, especially of a young person or child, in a senseless act or for sexual gratification is where I'd draw the line. You don't have any right to a second chance and it's a very high risk that all too often results in more murders and suffering.

I asked the question. But I'm inclined to agree with you. However the parole process seems to disagree so perhaps the discussion is not about this case, it's about the process. As an IT person I hated when "process" came into the arena, but I subsequently concluded it was ok, if constraining for innovation.
So if the parole board followed the process we can't argue. If we disagree with the Parole board's process we have democratic avenues to complain.

There are two possibilities. Either people have their brains removed when they start working for the parole board or the focus is on saving money or keeping to a budget, which is probably being squeezed at the moment. It must cost a fortune to keep a prisoner in prison. It won't cost much to let them out and do a bit of paperwork once a month or have the occasional visit from a remand officer.

Not sure depicting parole board members as having their brains removed is faintly accurate. Releasing people to save money doesn't really chime with me. The downside is huge.

[Derek27]

2.5 fl Oz (60g) long grain rice, 5 fl Oz (150g) boiling water!!

So people who prefer metric measurements need more water??