Ukraine Crisis

[Archangel]

NATO should flatten the Kremlin with Putin and his cronies buried in the rubble

[Archery1969]

NATO should flatten the Kremlin with Putin and his cronies buried in the rubble

No. I want to see him tortured with a razor blade, inch by inch and forced to eat his flesh and bone.

[Big Bad Barney]

Hello. I been watching one of the Reddit Video Ukraine sub a little bit....they put dance music over the top of the footage of stuff getting blown up... When ya got people doing that they're somewhat detached and in an echo chamber. Like its a computer game....IMO.... it'd probably pay to check yourself if you been following it for 18 months or what not...

[Derek27]

Hello. I been watching one of the Reddit Video Ukraine sub a little bit....they put dance music over the top of the footage of stuff getting blown up... When ya got people doing that they're somewhat detached and in an echo chamber. Like its a computer game....IMO.... it'd probably pay to check yourself if you been following it for 18 months or what not...

It's easy for some people to become completely detached from the humanitarian side of war and forget that Russian soldiers don't even have a choice but to fight. I remember when British sailors were informed of the sinking of an Argentinian submarine, you could hear a pin drop. Nothing to celebrate, just the knowledge that fellow sailors like themselves have been killed.

[greenmark]

Hello. I been watching one of the Reddit Video Ukraine sub a little bit....they put dance music over the top of the footage of stuff getting blown up... When ya got people doing that they're somewhat detached and in an echo chamber. Like its a computer game....IMO.... it'd probably pay to check yourself if you been following it for 18 months or what not...

It's easy for some people to become completely detached from the humanitarian side of war and forget that Russian soldiers don't even have a choice but to fight. I remember when British sailors were informed of the sinking of an Argentinian submarine, you could hear a pin drop. Nothing to celebrate, just the knowledge that fellow sailors like themselves have been killed.

The only thing that has become clear is that there will be no "victory" for either side.
It will just be a cessation of violence followed by repairing the infrastructure. But the resentment and emotional wounds will persist for generations. Putin has a lot to answer for - I have concluded he nothing more than the street thug he started out as.

[Archery1969]

Sky News:

Poland 'secretly sent Ukraine fighter jets and attack helicopters'

[Derek27]

You know, I'm a simple man with a simple questions, can you explain me from yours taxpayers point of view what is the necessity to held natos meeting near belorussian and russian borders, move expensive equipment (like, 12 patriot aa systems) over there, helis, planes, 1000 mil personnel and other stuff? Wouldn't it be less expensive to hold the meeting in a more safe distant location, or is this "gorilla chest beating" really worth your expenses?

Shouldn't there be some accountant guy, let's call him Steve, and Steve gonna say: "Hey guys, I made some calculations and this dick waving contest is gonna cost us gadzilion dollars. Shouldn't we get together, like, maybe at Jen's basment, drink beer and play "nuclear strike" on playstation one or something?"

It doesn't really make any difference where the summit is held. The nations' leaders will be turning up in suits without any tanks or guns.

[napshnap]

You know, I'm a simple man with a simple questions, can you explain me from yours taxpayers point of view what is the necessity to held natos meeting near belorussian and russian borders, move expensive equipment (like, 12 patriot aa systems) over there, helis, planes, 1000 mil personnel and other stuff? Wouldn't it be less expensive to hold the meeting in a more safe distant location, or is this "gorilla chest beating" really worth your expenses?

Shouldn't there be some accountant guy, let's call him Steve, and Steve gonna say: "Hey guys, I made some calculations and this dick waving contest is gonna cost us gadzilion dollars. Shouldn't we get together, like, maybe at Jen's basment, drink beer and play "nuclear strike" on playstation one or something?"

It doesn't really make any difference where the summit is held. ...

I bet from cost point of view it is.

[greenmark]

Sky News:

Poland 'secretly sent Ukraine fighter jets and attack helicopters'

No!!!! Surely not! You're ex-military are you not? This is NATO's response. Don't attack our friends and we won't supply them with lethal force. Attack our friends and whether they are part of NATO or not we will supply anything they want to DEFEND THEMSELVES (but on NATO's terms).

[napshnap]

Sky News:

Poland 'secretly sent Ukraine fighter jets and attack helicopters'

No!!!! Surely not! You're ex-military are you not? This is NATO's response. Don't attack our friends and we won't supply them with lethal force. Attack our friends and whether they are part of NATO or not we will supply anything they want to DEFEND THEMSELVES (but on NATO's terms).

Following your logic, the help should be limited only to defense systems and non-lethal stuff, like Israel does. Maybe you meant to ATTACK THE AGGRESSOR, though, but that where the fn circus begins, like "oh, we honestly promise not to bomb civs with this "bomb the civs" weapon!"

[greenmark]

Sky News:

Poland 'secretly sent Ukraine fighter jets and attack helicopters'

No!!!! Surely not! You're ex-military are you not? This is NATO's response. Don't attack our friends and we won't supply them with lethal force. Attack our friends and whether they are part of NATO or not we will supply anything they want to DEFEND THEMSELVES (but on NATO's terms).

Following your logic, the help should be limited only to defense systems and non-lethal stuff, like Israel does. Maybe you meant to ATTACK THE AGGRESSOR, though, but that where the fn circus begins, like "oh, we honestly promise not to bomb civs with this "bomb the civs" weapon!"

Putin started it. He funded Russian seperatists in Donbas and attempted to over-run Kyiv.
Face it. Putin is a liability for your homeland. NATO will not set foot inside Russia. Putin has convinced Russians that his paranoia over losing power justifies the slaughter of 1000's. It's all a terrible waste of humanity on the anvil of one man's ego. The sooner Russia awaken's the better. NATO won't do it for you.

[napshnap]

No!!!! Surely not! You're ex-military are you not? This is NATO's response. Don't attack our friends and we won't supply them with lethal force. Attack our friends and whether they are part of NATO or not we will supply anything they want to DEFEND THEMSELVES (but on NATO's terms).

Following your logic, the help should be limited only to defense systems and non-lethal stuff, like Israel does. Maybe you meant to ATTACK THE AGGRESSOR, though, but that where the fn circus begins, like "oh, we honestly promise not to bomb civs with this "bomb the civs" weapon!"

Putin started it. He funded Russian seperatists in Donbas ...

The people of Donbas (and other citizens of south-east regions), did they lose their representation in the government and the legislature as a result of the coup? Remeber I mentioned it earlier, did you change your mind?

[Archangel]

Nobody wins. One side just loses more slowly

[greenmark]

Following your logic, the help should be limited only to defense systems and non-lethal stuff, like Israel does. Maybe you meant to ATTACK THE AGGRESSOR, though, but that where the fn circus begins, like "oh, we honestly promise not to bomb civs with this "bomb the civs" weapon!"

Putin started it. He funded Russian seperatists in Donbas ...

The people of Donbas (and other citizens of south-east regions), did they lose their representation in the government and the legislature as a result of the coup? Remeber I mentioned it earlier, did you change your mind?

It makes no differene I'm afraid. Donbas is Urkainian territory. Takling and arguing could have resolved things. Putin has stoked an supported and armed Russian seperatism in that area. If he was a stateman he could have resolved the situation. But he ddn't want to. And we have what we have as a result.

[napshnap]

Putin started it. He funded Russian seperatists in Donbas ...

The people of Donbas (and other citizens of south-east regions), did they lose their representation in the government and the legislature as a result of the coup? Remeber I mentioned it earlier, did you change your mind?

It makes no differene I'm afraid. Donbas is Urkainian territory. Takling and arguing could have resolved things. ...

And they talked and talked and talked... and then one german lady said that those talkings was a bullshit to cover military preparations.

If he was a stateman he could have resolved the situation. But he ddn't want to

He tried, he letted natos bases on Russian soil, helped it, asked to let the country join it. What else western ingenious philanthropic strategists wanted? To dance a cha-cha for them?
Really, even the braindead bussines monkey knows that if you wanna get rid of you opponent - take it, buy it.