Ukraine Crisis

[napshnap]

Fuck Russia, I served, at no point was I told to rape or kill children. That’s a choice. Russian soldiers had a choice. Bollocks they might be killed if didn’t. In March 2022 many laid down there arms and fled. Therefore those that choose to wear the uniform and continue to kill are utter scum. My only wish is that the RAF, Marines, Para’s and Gurkhas should engage. I have spoken to a few of them and they want to go and help Ukraine asap.

So you served, how then it doesn't make you an "utter scum"? You were a soldier, a tool. Soldier should follow orders. This is how an army works as a system, you know it.
But... I don't believe that they being ordered to do such unethical to the limit things. To launch a missile somewhere - maybe, but an "order to rape" - no, sir, I don't believe it. Even a tool has it's limits. Saying an opposite is a racism, don't be a racist.

Your fellow country men rape and kill children and elderly and you call me a racist ?

What planet are you on ?

Putin is scum, anyone supporting him is scum, if that’s you then you are scum.

My option would be to blanket bomb Russia, including YOU. The sooner, the better, you wanker.

Cool down, pal, you inhaled to much paint while paintng the bunker .
The old times are gone, no more balls to do that, only enough to raid some third world country.

[Derek27]

Fuck Russia, I served, at no point was I told to rape or kill children. That’s a choice. Russian soldiers had a choice. Bollocks they might be killed if didn’t. In March 2022 many laid down there arms and fled. Therefore those that choose to wear the uniform and continue to kill are utter scum. My only wish is that the RAF, Marines, Para’s and Gurkhas should engage. I have spoken to a few of them and they want to go and help Ukraine asap.

So you served, how then it doesn't make you an "utter scum"? You were a soldier, a tool. Soldier should follow orders. This is how an army works as a system, you know it.
But... I don't believe that they being ordered to do such unethical to the limit things. To launch a missile somewhere - maybe, but an "order to rape" - no, sir, I don't believe it. Even a tool has it's limits. Saying an opposite is a racism, don't be a racist.

Your fellow country men rape and kill children and elderly and you call me a racist ?

What planet are you on ?

Putin is scum, anyone supporting him is scum, if that’s you then you are scum.

My option would be to blanket bomb Russia, including YOU. The sooner, the better, you wanker.

So it's wrong to rape women but okay to blanket bomb an entire nation, including innocent men, women and children?

[firlandsfarm]

Fuck France. They delivered Exocet missiles during the falklands war to Argentina. Utter Scum bags.

There's nothing wrong with France, it's the French I can't stand!

[Selmer]

"My option would be to blanket bomb Russia, including YOU. The sooner, the better, you wanker."

This is the result of continuous war propaganda. Demonization of the enemy: they are pure evil, destructive aggressor, which gradually leads to a conclusion that not even one of them deserves to live. That removes any complexity and makes everything so simple - just kill them all. I witnessed it a lot in Ukraine, heard about it in Russia to a certain degree, but didn`t expect to see it here. It makes me sick to my stomach.

[greenmark]

"My option would be to blanket bomb Russia, including YOU. The sooner, the better, you wanker."

This is the result of continuous war propaganda. Demonization of the enemy: they are pure evil, destructive aggressor, which gradually leads to a conclusion that not even one of them deserves to live. That removes any complexity and makes everything so simple - just kill them all. I witnessed it a lot in Ukraine, heard about it in Russia to a certain degree, but didn`t expect to see it here. It makes me sick to my stomach.

No it isn't. It's because Archery1969 cares a lot.
But I don't agree with his notion of blanket bombing Russia.
The Allies did it with Dresden in WW2, it is an appalling tactic that doesn't address the core problem.
As I've said before Hiroshima and Nagasaki may well have forced the Japanese regime into an otherwise impossible surrender.
But are we still so flipping stupid that we can't see that slaughter achieves fuck all.

[Selmer]

"My option would be to blanket bomb Russia, including YOU. The sooner, the better, you wanker."

This is the result of continuous war propaganda. Demonization of the enemy: they are pure evil, destructive aggressor, which gradually leads to a conclusion that not even one of them deserves to live. That removes any complexity and makes everything so simple - just kill them all. I witnessed it a lot in Ukraine, heard about it in Russia to a certain degree, but didn`t expect to see it here. It makes me sick to my stomach.

No it isn't. It's because Archery1969 cares a lot.
But I don't agree with his notion of blanket bombing Russia.
The Allies did it with Dresden in WW2, it is an appalling tactic that doesn't address the core problem.
As I've said before Hiroshima and Nagasaki may well have forced the Japanese regime into an otherwise impossible surrender.
But are we still so flipping stupid that we can't see that slaughter achieves fuck all.

Cares about who??? Since when carpet bombing millions of innocent souls is the way to show care? I have people that I love in both countries, so who am I supposed to care about? I take such notions very seriously.

[Archery1969]

There are at least 24 million men in Russia. By doing nothing then they are complicit in the war. If they wanted to then they could remove Putin and his elites. By staying silent, they do nothing. You can't imprison or shoot that many people. Hell, the Wagner Group with 26,000 nearly removed Putin.

History has shown, Japan, sometimes you have to take many to end conflicts.

I am not in charge, so Russia won't be blanket bombed.

There are some people on here that seem to be supporting Putin. They should be shot. But that would be too quick for me. I would prefer to torture them first.

Russian soldiers are pathetic. Some back in March 2022 had balls and to their credit put weapons down and disappeared. They knew what was right and wrong as did some who killed their commanding officers.

Russia has taken us back to WW1 and trench warfare. How pathetic is that in 2023. Super power my backside. If Russians do nothing then they are as much to blame as Putin. Hence bomb the lot.

[Derek27]

Putin says cluster munitions are abhorrent, even though he's been using them on civilians since the start of the war, but if the West uses them he'll "start" using them as well!

[greenmark]

Putin says cluster munitions are abhorrent, even though he's been using them on civilians since the start of the war, but if the West uses them he'll "start" using them as well!

Presumably that statement is for mass consumption in Russia. So the lie will play well. Everybody else in the free world (including those able to access other sources of information other than the state controlled media) knows it's just another Putin manipulation of the facts.

[napshnap]

Putin says cluster munitions are abhorrent, even though he's been using them on civilians since the start of the war, but if the West uses them he'll "start" using them as well!

Presumably that statement is for mass consumption in Russia. So the lie will play well. Everybody else in the free world (including those able to access other sources of information other than the state controlled media) knows it's just another Putin manipulation of the facts.

Why weapon suppliers play on his level? Why they allow themselves to fall so low? Why they send weapons especially bad for civs and environment?
Will this moronic escalation ever stop or we'll see bio, chem or nuclear (f16s can carry nuclear weapons, for your interest) being supplied to conflict zone? Are there any limits after which you'll say "NO! Stop it! They are shit, but we are better that this!"?

[Derek27]

Putin says cluster munitions are abhorrent, even though he's been using them on civilians since the start of the war, but if the West uses them he'll "start" using them as well!

Presumably that statement is for mass consumption in Russia. So the lie will play well. Everybody else in the free world (including those able to access other sources of information other than the state controlled media) knows it's just another Putin manipulation of the facts.

Why weapon suppliers play on his level? Why they allow themselves to fall so low? Why they send weapons especially bad for civs and environment?
Will this moronic escalation ever stop or we'll see bio, chem or nuclear (f16s can carry nuclear weapons, for your interest) being supplied to conflict zone? Are there any limits after which you'll say "NO! Stop it! They are shit, but we are better that this!"?

The war would stop today if Putin decided to pull out of Ukraine. The Ukrainians can't really pull out of Ukraine because they live there.

[greenmark]

Putin says cluster munitions are abhorrent, even though he's been using them on civilians since the start of the war, but if the West uses them he'll "start" using them as well!

Presumably that statement is for mass consumption in Russia. So the lie will play well. Everybody else in the free world (including those able to access other sources of information other than the state controlled media) knows it's just another Putin manipulation of the facts.

Why weapon suppliers play on his level? Why they allow themselves to fall so low? Why they send weapons especially bad for civs and environment?
Will this moronic escalation ever stop or we'll see bio, chem or nuclear (f16s can carry nuclear weapons, for your interest) being supplied to conflict zone? Are there any limits after which you'll say "NO! Stop it! They are shit, but we are better that this!"?

The weapon suppliers are asked for the stuff that they make. They supply it. This is capitalism.
I would rather we supply Ukraine with weapons than let Putin's toxic influence to spread.
This moronic conflict is in the hands of Putin and Ukraine, they can stop it in the next hour if they choose.

And I won't back down napshnap. Putin is the cause of this waste of life. Not "the West".
Ukraine however bad you think they may be is entitled to manage and protect their sovereign territory. And as I have said that territory was defined by a Russian leader. Not a USSR leader, a Russian leader.

[Derek27]

Putin's bridge has been hit again.

[Derek27]

What a flipping stupid key, colours almost identical!!

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[greenmark]

What a flipping stupid key, colours almost identical!!


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Where is that from.? Obviously Aljazeera, but which bit?