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Emmson
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They have struck the Kerch bridge again which is wonderful, I don't know why they don't continuously strike it until its rendered unrepairable as its a very important gateway to the Crimea.
Emmson
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Don't allow them repair, STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE again and again and again.
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Michael5482
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They threaten everyone with nuclear weapons, target schools/hospitals murdering civilians and now once again using food as a weapon depriving the most needy in the world who have absolutely nothing to do with Russia's illegal war.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-66219127

Russian scum.
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napshnap
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Michael5482 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:28 pm
They threaten everyone with nuclear weapons, target schools/hospitals murdering civilians and now once again using food as a weapon depriving the most needy in the world who have absolutely nothing to do with Russia's illegal war.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-66219127

Russian scum.
Russia has shitload of grain and other agricultural products that it's ready to send in much larger quantities at low prices, but being blocked by superfriends (btw part of the grain deal was allowance of it's products and fertilizers to the market and it was ignored sabotaged (in some cases literally - "Ukrainian saboteurs may have destroyed Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline"(WION)) by superfriends).

So who's the capitalist scum here?


I'm telling you, folks, it all is not about the people. They're (we're) a bargaining chip, unfortunately.
Michael5482
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napshnap wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:27 pm
Michael5482 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:28 pm
They threaten everyone with nuclear weapons, target schools/hospitals murdering civilians and now once again using food as a weapon depriving the most needy in the world who have absolutely nothing to do with Russia's illegal war.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-66219127

Russian scum.
Russia has shitload of grain and other agricultural products that it's ready to send in much larger quantities at low prices, but being blocked by superfriends (btw part of the grain deal was allowance of it's products and fertilizers to the market and it was ignored sabotaged (in some cases literally - "Ukrainian saboteurs may have destroyed Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline"(WION)) by superfriends).

So who's the capitalist scum here?

I'm telling you, folks, it all is not about the people. They're (we're) a bargaining chip, unfortunately.
Yes here comes Russia to save the day and the world with it's grain. Russia will be leading the way in humanitarian aid, human rights and showing other countries how not to suppress it's own people by the time the weeks out :roll:

There's no ulterior motives or super friends at play, Russia are sanctioned because they illegally invaded the Ukraine, nothing more nothing less. If Russia wants to supply it's grain to the world then they can remove their troops from the Ukraine.
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napshnap
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Emmson wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 5:51 pm
Don't allow them repair, STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE again and again and again.
You know... I didn't want to comment this incident, but your another cannibals party session leaves me no options...

The brige has few lines, railroad line used by civ and mil trains, other road lines used by civs. These two drone-boats (the origin of which is yet to be known) striked the civs one. For a days there was traffic jam for many kilometers of civ vehicles (despite the conflict, it's popular holiday destination), it moved superslow casue of checks due to the previous attack. It was impossible not to see this from a satellite or other means of observation used for this terrorist attack.
So this terrorist attack, that obviously was done for a purely symbolic purpose, claimed the lives of 2 people and wounded one.

But you, keep partying, darling...

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Derek27
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napshnap wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:27 pm
Michael5482 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:28 pm
They threaten everyone with nuclear weapons, target schools/hospitals murdering civilians and now once again using food as a weapon depriving the most needy in the world who have absolutely nothing to do with Russia's illegal war.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-66219127

Russian scum.
Russia has shitload of grain and other agricultural products that it's ready to send in much larger quantities at low prices, but being blocked by superfriends (btw part of the grain deal was allowance of it's products and fertilizers to the market and it was ignored sabotaged (in some cases literally - "Ukrainian saboteurs may have destroyed Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline"(WION)) by superfriends).

So who's the capitalist scum here?


I'm telling you, folks, it all is not about the people. They're (we're) a bargaining chip, unfortunately.
Apparently it's the superfriends, but you didn't say who they are.
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napshnap
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:59 pm
napshnap wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:27 pm
Michael5482 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:28 pm
They threaten everyone with nuclear weapons, target schools/hospitals murdering civilians and now once again using food as a weapon depriving the most needy in the world who have absolutely nothing to do with Russia's illegal war.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-66219127

Russian scum.
Russia has shitload of grain and other agricultural products that it's ready to send in much larger quantities at low prices, but being blocked by superfriends (btw part of the grain deal was allowance of it's products and fertilizers to the market and it was ignored sabotaged (in some cases literally - "Ukrainian saboteurs may have destroyed Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline"(WION)) by superfriends).

So who's the capitalist scum here?


I'm telling you, folks, it all is not about the people. They're (we're) a bargaining chip, unfortunately.
Apparently it's the superfriends, but you didn't say who they are.
Countries most buttitched by the conflict, major natos players.
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napshnap
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Michael5482 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:54 pm
napshnap wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:27 pm
Michael5482 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:28 pm
They threaten everyone with nuclear weapons, target schools/hospitals murdering civilians and now once again using food as a weapon depriving the most needy in the world who have absolutely nothing to do with Russia's illegal war.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-66219127

Russian scum.
Russia has shitload of grain and other agricultural products that it's ready to send in much larger quantities at low prices, but being blocked by superfriends (btw part of the grain deal was allowance of it's products and fertilizers to the market and it was ignored sabotaged (in some cases literally - "Ukrainian saboteurs may have destroyed Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline"(WION)) by superfriends).

So who's the capitalist scum here?

I'm telling you, folks, it all is not about the people. They're (we're) a bargaining chip, unfortunately.
... If Russia wants to supply it's grain to the world then they can remove their troops from the Ukraine.
it all is not about the people. They're (we're) a bargaining chip, unfortunately.
Once again, who's the scum?
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Derek27
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napshnap wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:04 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:59 pm
napshnap wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:27 pm


Russia has shitload of grain and other agricultural products that it's ready to send in much larger quantities at low prices, but being blocked by superfriends (btw part of the grain deal was allowance of it's products and fertilizers to the market and it was ignored sabotaged (in some cases literally - "Ukrainian saboteurs may have destroyed Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline"(WION)) by superfriends).

So who's the capitalist scum here?


I'm telling you, folks, it all is not about the people. They're (we're) a bargaining chip, unfortunately.
Apparently it's the superfriends, but you didn't say who they are.
Countries most buttitched by the conflict, major natos players.
NATO nations are not stopping anyone from transporting grain. Do you have a news source other than the ones controlled by Putin?
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napshnap
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:23 pm
napshnap wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:04 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:59 pm


Apparently it's the superfriends, but you didn't say who they are.
Countries most buttitched by the conflict, major natos players.
NATO nations are not stopping anyone from transporting grain. Do you have a news source other than the ones controlled by Putin?
"While Russian exports of food and fertilizer are not subject to Western sanctions imposed after the February 2022 invasion of Ukraine, Moscow says restrictions on payments, logistics and insurance have amounted to a barrier to shipments. ...
U.N. spokesperson Stephane Dujarric said last week that "the past months have shown tangible progress" on improving Russian exports, but added: "Challenges remain but we will spare no effort to overcome all remaining obstacles."..."
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/wh ... 023-06-16/

"Russia agreed this month to a two-month extension of the deal but has said the initiative will cease unless an agreement aimed at overcoming obstacles to Russian grain and fertiliser exports is fulfilled...
U.N. spokesperson Stephane Dujarric, asked about the Reuters report at a daily press briefing, said conversations were continuing.
"As you recall, the Secretary General had put forward some ideas to the parties to improve the facilitation of the work of the Joint Coordination Centre, to also work on the issue of ammonia export, which is part of the deal that was signed. Those conversations and contacts are continuing. But that's as much as I'll say right now," Dujarric said..."
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodi ... 023-05-31/

So, there were problems, that they tried to solve by negotiations. For months.
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Derek27
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napshnap wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:33 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:23 pm
napshnap wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:04 pm


Countries most buttitched by the conflict, major natos players.
NATO nations are not stopping anyone from transporting grain. Do you have a news source other than the ones controlled by Putin?
"While Russian exports of food and fertilizer are not subject to Western sanctions imposed after the February 2022 invasion of Ukraine, Moscow says restrictions on payments, logistics and insurance have amounted to a barrier to shipments. ...
U.N. spokesperson Stephane Dujarric said last week that "the past months have shown tangible progress" on improving Russian exports, but added: "Challenges remain but we will spare no effort to overcome all remaining obstacles."..."
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/wh ... 023-06-16/

"Russia agreed this month to a two-month extension of the deal but has said the initiative will cease unless an agreement aimed at overcoming obstacles to Russian grain and fertiliser exports is fulfilled...
U.N. spokesperson Stephane Dujarric, asked about the Reuters report at a daily press briefing, said conversations were continuing.
"As you recall, the Secretary General had put forward some ideas to the parties to improve the facilitation of the work of the Joint Coordination Centre, to also work on the issue of ammonia export, which is part of the deal that was signed. Those conversations and contacts are continuing. But that's as much as I'll say right now," Dujarric said..."
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodi ... 023-05-31/

So, there were problems, that they tried to solve by negotiations. For months.
Those problems are a direct result of Putin invading Ukraine, you can't blame the West for that. The West don't intentionally stop grain, unlike Putin who uses it as a bargaining chip.
Archery1969
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Emmson wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 5:51 pm
Don't allow them repair, STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE again and again and again.
It would take around 30 to 50 HIMRA missiles to completely destroy that bridge. That’s allot of missiles Ukraine could use elsewhere to turn Russian soldiers into kebab meat.

What they should do is workout when military trains are using the bridge to transport troops, equipment, food and medical supplies. Then blow it off the map, also leaving lots of Russian kebab meat.
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alexmr2
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Yet another terrorist attack on a bridge from the Ukranian invaders still killing the innocent. Over here the pro war extemists are still supporting the killing of innocent by Ukranian nazis and keeping the war going.

Hopefully Putin will put a stop to the killing soon but the Ukranians are still losing badly (estimated 5 Ukranians dead for every Russian soldier) due to their inferior equipment and untrained soldiers
Archery1969
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alexmr2 wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:56 pm
Yet another terrorist attack on a bridge from the Ukranian invaders still killing the innocent. Over here the pro war extemists are still supporting the killing of innocent by Ukranian nazis and keeping the war going.

Hopefully Putin will put a stop to the killing soon but the Ukranians are still losing badly (estimated 5 Ukranians dead for every Russian soldier) due to their inferior equipment and untrained soldiers
Keep smoking that shit Kermit.
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