jamesedwards wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:17 pmI suggest you be prepared to accept that sometimes others may not share your opinions.



jamesedwards wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:17 pmI suggest you be prepared to accept that sometimes others may not share your opinions.
I accept others don't share my opinions, I'm merely explaining why their opinion's wrong, which is no more than what you attempt to do when you have a disagreement. The only difference is that you fail.firlandsfarm wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:23 amjamesedwards wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:17 pmI suggest you be prepared to accept that sometimes others may not share your opinions.![]()
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It will never happen James!
Our system has always been about punishment. The work done to prevent reoffending is a bit like social work - huge demand, minimal resources. Hence, people reoffend - No s**t sherlock!
I've always regarded the purpose of prison as segregation rather than punishment, to keep them away from the public. I have sympathy for drug addicts, there should be more treatment available, but people who have no regards for others, burglars, fraudsters, etc. should just be banged up for a long time.greenmark wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 12:33 amOur system has always been about punishment. The work done to prevent reoffending is a bit like social work - huge demand, minimal resources. Hence, people reoffend - No s**t sherlock!
I doubt that a majority in prison would be described as hardened criminals.
Seems drugs, alcohol related violence, deprivation, housing issues propel people into offending. That landscape doesn't change when they emerge from prison - quite the opposite I would think.
They are mosty people that given a better choice would take it. But they never get that. My only certain knowledge of this is that Timpsons did (may still do) actively recruit and train ex-prisoners and have a 75% retention rate from that cohort. Doesn't that say something positive?
Are we saying that all 80,000 prisoners are beyond redemption?
That's depressing!greenmark wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:31 pm"About one in seven people in the UK now take medication to treat depression"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66430817
I've spent years on antidepressants and had a lot of trouble (insomnia) getting off them. I found running and weight training a great mood-lifting benefit, better than any medication, but for people who aren't so fit or are so severely depressed that they're just slumped on their couch unable to do anything, some sort of medication is probably essential.greenmark wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:31 pm"About one in seven people in the UK now take medication to treat depression"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66430817
Good grief that's a figure that staggers me. What kind of society have we created?
Depression is not trivial and I'm not pointing at these poor people and saying "pull yourself together", just a recognition of a startling statistic and I wonder how we've got to this point.
I know from family and family friends that medics like prescribing drugs to address depression. But also know antidepressants are never anything other than a temporary solution, but are dirt cheap compared to psychotherapy, which is the solution.
Indeed. It's annoying like the periodic attempts to get you to adopt Bing as your default search engine and Edge as your default browser.
AVG free is pretty good at just getting on with it. Maybe one nag a month about upgrading.greenmark wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:03 pmIndeed. It's annoying like the periodic attempts to get you to adopt Bing as your default search engine and Edge as your default browser.
I also have Avast free and get pestered on a daily basis to go Premiium via alarmist notifications about security. But I guess thats the "price" for being a cheapskate.![]()