Ukraine Crisis

[Michael5482]

Two Russian bombers intercepted just north of Scotland this morning. Usual Russian provocation, everyday Russia just make NATO more resilient and stronger.

https://news.sky.com/story/raf-typhoon- ... d-12939983

[Archery1969]

Two Russian bombers intercepted just north of Scotland this morning. Usual Russian provocation, everyday Russia just make NATO more resilient and stronger.

https://news.sky.com/story/raf-typhoon- ... d-12939983

Shame I wasn't one of the fighter pilots as my finger would have slipped.

[greenmark]

Two Russian bombers intercepted just north of Scotland this morning. Usual Russian provocation, everyday Russia just make NATO more resilient and stronger.

https://news.sky.com/story/raf-typhoon- ... d-12939983

This stuff has been going on for decades. I wonder what the logic is. Are they letting us know they can threaten us?
Are they testing our defences? Are they snooping? But I doubt it represents any sort change in the status quo.

[Derek27]

Two Russian bombers intercepted just north of Scotland this morning. Usual Russian provocation, everyday Russia just make NATO more resilient and stronger.

https://news.sky.com/story/raf-typhoon- ... d-12939983

This stuff has been going on for decades. I wonder what the logic is. Are they letting us know they can threaten us?
Are they testing our defences? Are they snooping? But I doubt it represents any sort change in the status quo.

They've been threatening us and showing off their muscle for decades, but now we know that their pilots are shit scared of flying over Ukraine when they don't even have the very latest anti-aircraft defences, never mind fighter aircraft, so I don't know what the point is now.

Given Putin's threats of nuclear war, they had every right to shoot them down if they were in our airspace.

[Archery1969]

Two Russian bombers intercepted just north of Scotland this morning. Usual Russian provocation, everyday Russia just make NATO more resilient and stronger.

https://news.sky.com/story/raf-typhoon- ... d-12939983

As others have said, this has been going on since the cold war from both sides.

The game is to test and assess each others capabilities from the Air, Land and Sea.

Fighter pilots have allot of power at their finger tips but likewise allot of responsibilities. They won't open fire without getting agreement from No10. Unless there is an imminent threat to the UK, then they are allowed to take whatever action they deem neccessary at the time. But if they did then they know their actions could leed to the unthinkable retaliation wise.

Hence, I wouldn't be allowed to be a fighter pilot.

[greenmark]

Two Russian bombers intercepted just north of Scotland this morning. Usual Russian provocation, everyday Russia just make NATO more resilient and stronger.

https://news.sky.com/story/raf-typhoon- ... d-12939983

As others have said, this has been going on since the cold war from both sides.

The game is to test and assess each others capabilities from the Air, Land and Sea.

Fighter pilots have allot of power at their finger tips but likewise allot of responsibilities. They won't open fire without getting agreement from No10. Unless there is an imminent threat to the UK, then they are allowed to take whatever action they deem neccessary at the time. But if they did then they know their actions could leed to the unthinkable retaliation wise.

Hence, I wouldn't be allowed to be a fighter pilot.

Thats really intersting from an ex-serviceman. Everything I've read, heard, discussed about being a combatant is you obey orders. I'm sure there is a lot of latitude on occasion, but being a fighter pilot I would think is never one of those. occasions, unless you lose comms and have to use intiative and best judgement.

[Derek27]

Two Russian bombers intercepted just north of Scotland this morning. Usual Russian provocation, everyday Russia just make NATO more resilient and stronger.

https://news.sky.com/story/raf-typhoon- ... d-12939983

As others have said, this has been going on since the cold war from both sides.

The game is to test and assess each others capabilities from the Air, Land and Sea.

Fighter pilots have allot of power at their finger tips but likewise allot of responsibilities. They won't open fire without getting agreement from No10. Unless there is an imminent threat to the UK, then they are allowed to take whatever action they deem neccessary at the time. But if they did then they know their actions could leed to the unthinkable retaliation wise.

Hence, I wouldn't be allowed to be a fighter pilot.

Thats really intersting from an ex-serviceman. Everything I've read, heard, discussed about being a combatant is you obey orders. I'm sure there is a lot of latitude on occasion, but being a fighter pilot I would think is never one of those. occasions, unless you lose comms and have to use intiative and best judgement.

Only while you're a serviceman. Now that he's left Archery would nuke Russia, China and North Korea if you gave him the buttons.

[Archery1969]

Two Russian bombers intercepted just north of Scotland this morning. Usual Russian provocation, everyday Russia just make NATO more resilient and stronger.

https://news.sky.com/story/raf-typhoon- ... d-12939983

As others have said, this has been going on since the cold war from both sides.

The game is to test and assess each others capabilities from the Air, Land and Sea.

Fighter pilots have allot of power at their finger tips but likewise allot of responsibilities. They won't open fire without getting agreement from No10. Unless there is an imminent threat to the UK, then they are allowed to take whatever action they deem neccessary at the time. But if they did then they know their actions could leed to the unthinkable retaliation wise.

Hence, I wouldn't be allowed to be a fighter pilot.

Thats really intersting from an ex-serviceman. Everything I've read, heard, discussed about being a combatant is you obey orders. I'm sure there is a lot of latitude on occasion, but being a fighter pilot I would think is never one of those. occasions, unless you lose comms and have to use intiative and best judgement.

I didn’t mean to suggest anyone would disobey an order.

- Pilots would be scrambled with jets
- Would try and communicate with Russians to change course
- If Russians didn’t then pilot would normally ask HQ who would ask No10
- HQ and/or No10 would give an order and the pilot follows it

However, if the situation suddenly changed and Russians opened fire and/or deviated towards UK infrastructure then pilot is within his right to use his own judgement without getting the ok from HQ and/or No10.

Common sense usually prevails.

I on the other hand would make up some kind of excuse or say they did XYZ and shoot the fuckers out of the sky.

Hope that makes sense.

[Archery1969]

As others have said, this has been going on since the cold war from both sides.

The game is to test and assess each others capabilities from the Air, Land and Sea.

Fighter pilots have allot of power at their finger tips but likewise allot of responsibilities. They won't open fire without getting agreement from No10. Unless there is an imminent threat to the UK, then they are allowed to take whatever action they deem neccessary at the time. But if they did then they know their actions could leed to the unthinkable retaliation wise.

Hence, I wouldn't be allowed to be a fighter pilot.

Thats really intersting from an ex-serviceman. Everything I've read, heard, discussed about being a combatant is you obey orders. I'm sure there is a lot of latitude on occasion, but being a fighter pilot I would think is never one of those. occasions, unless you lose comms and have to use intiative and best judgement.

Only while you're a serviceman. Now that he's left Archery would nuke Russia, China and North Korea if you gave him the buttons.

You left one of the list Derek.

Alexmr2 residence.

[firlandsfarm]

Shame I wasn't one of the fighter pilots as my finger would have slipped.

That's why you are not one of the fighter pilots!

[firlandsfarm]

This stuff has been going on for decades. I wonder what the logic is. Are they letting us know they can threaten us?
Are they testing our defences? Are they snooping? But I doubt it represents any sort change in the status quo.

Yes it has, it's suggested they are poking around for weaknesses.

[Michael5482]

Two Russian bombers intercepted just north of Scotland this morning. Usual Russian provocation, everyday Russia just make NATO more resilient and stronger.

https://news.sky.com/story/raf-typhoon- ... d-12939983

As others have said, this has been going on since the cold war from both sides.

The game is to test and assess each others capabilities from the Air, Land and Sea.

Fighter pilots have allot of power at their finger tips but likewise allot of responsibilities. They won't open fire without getting agreement from No10. Unless there is an imminent threat to the UK, then they are allowed to take whatever action they deem neccessary at the time. But if they did then they know their actions could leed to the unthinkable retaliation wise.

Hence, I wouldn't be allowed to be a fighter pilot.

Yes there just probing like they have always done but were at a state of higher alert due to Russia's illegal war so has a bit more meaning than usual.

As you've have touched on only takes one itchy trigger finger. I've no doubt the RAF are above that but the Russian's aren't however they know the consequences if they choose to attack a NATO member.

[alexmr2]

Ukraine is losing weapons on the battlefield.

20% of their new weapons lost in the first 2 weeks.

https://themessenger.com/news/ukraine-i ... attlefield

[Michael5482]

Ukraine is losing weapons on the battlefield.

20% of their new weapons lost in the first 2 weeks.

https://themessenger.com/news/ukraine-i ... attlefield

So they've still got 80% of them left then with America sending even more potent hardware. Great news.

[Derek27]

Ukraine is losing weapons on the battlefield.

20% of their new weapons lost in the first 2 weeks.

https://themessenger.com/news/ukraine-i ... attlefield

Post a reliable source or don't bother. I doubt many people will bother looking at that article.