Ukraine Crisis

[greenmark]

Already told ya - democracy as a rule of the "average" doesn't work well, cause the masses can be brainwashed and manipulated, being it "communism" or capitalism or whatever - doesn't matter. As for Gorbachev "era", yes it was interesting times, too bad it was short and ended with Yeltsin super presidency.

But you never criticise Putin? Perhaps you have family in Russia that prevents you from expressing your true view?
For us "westerners" Putiin is a slam-dunk dictator. He's ruining Russia.

I've already said that I'm not the fan of the constitution reform and wish the parliament had more power and less notoriety. I don't think he's ruining the country, but I don't think it being governed optimally either.

Democracy doesn't exist in Putin's Russia. He has made the eradication of democracy his highest priority. And it's worked for him and his cronies - so far.
But remember Abraham Lincoln said "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time".

[napshnap]

But you never criticise Putin? Perhaps you have family in Russia that prevents you from expressing your true view?
For us "westerners" Putiin is a slam-dunk dictator. He's ruining Russia.

I've already said that I'm not the fan of the constitution reform and wish the parliament had more power and less notoriety. I don't think he's ruining the country, but I don't think it being governed optimally either.

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But remember Abraham Lincoln said "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time".

Lincoln is an oldfag sucker who didn't know what is it to live in an era of virtual insanity, total (total-itarian?) digitalisation and universal human rights violation (for the good, ofcourse, it's always for the "good") ))! So I'm afraid it's possible to have both.

[greenmark]

I've already said that I'm not the fan of the constitution reform and wish the parliament had more power and less notoriety. I don't think he's ruining the country, but I don't think it being governed optimally either.

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But remember Abraham Lincoln said "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time".

Lincoln is an oldfag sucker who didn't know what is it to live in an era of virtual insanity, total (total-itarian?) digitalisation and universal human rights violation (for the good, ofcourse, it's always for the good) ))! So I'm afraid it's possible to have both.

OK we've reached a subjective crux.
I believe Lincoln's view is correct. You disagree. I agree to disagree.

[napshnap]

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But remember Abraham Lincoln said "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time".

Lincoln is an oldfag sucker who didn't know what is it to live in an era of virtual insanity, total (total-itarian?) digitalisation and universal human rights violation (for the good, ofcourse, it's always for the good) ))! So I'm afraid it's possible to have both.

OK we've reached a subjective crux.
I believe Lincoln's view is correct. You disagree. I agree to disagree.

Deepdown, in a distant corner of my soul I'm still keeping an optimistic light/view that Humanity is capible of getting out of any bad non-optimal situation. I just not sure when this "time" when "you can not fool all of the people" will come. So, I think, generally I agree with Lincoln's saying.

[greenmark]

Lincoln is an oldfag sucker who didn't know what is it to live in an era of virtual insanity, total (total-itarian?) digitalisation and universal human rights violation (for the good, ofcourse, it's always for the good) ))! So I'm afraid it's possible to have both.

OK we've reached a subjective crux.
I believe Lincoln's view is correct. You disagree. I agree to disagree.

Deepdown, in a distant corner of my soul I'm still keeping an optimistic light/view that Humanity capible of getting out of any bad non-optimal situation. I just not sure when this "time" when "you can not fool all of the people" will come. So, I think, generally I agree with Lincoln's saying.

The only vaguely positive I've seen from Putin for yonks is suggesting he would be willing to engage in peace talks with Ukraine. Problem is - no-one believes him and the "offer" is predicated on Ukraine to stop trying to drive Putin's invasive forces off Ukraine's territory. Not much of an offer is it?
I think we both believe our leaders are failing us in one way or another. When I was 21 I thought by my current age all this crap would be sorted. C'est la vie.
Is there a Russian phrase for optimistic hope?

[Kai]

But you never criticise Putin? Perhaps you have family in Russia that prevents you from expressing your true view?

Don't answer that

[napshnap]

OK we've reached a subjective crux.
I believe Lincoln's view is correct. You disagree. I agree to disagree.

Deepdown, in a distant corner of my soul I'm still keeping an optimistic light/view that Humanity capible of getting out of any bad non-optimal situation. I just not sure when this "time" when "you can not fool all of the people" will come. So, I think, generally I agree with Lincoln's saying.

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Is there a Russian phrase for optimistic hope?

"Their eyes are full of dusk
Their hearts are full of dawn." by Joseph Brodsky.
It's from his poem, here it is https://ruverses.com/joseph-brodsky/pilgrims/7591/

[greenmark]

Deepdown, in a distant corner of my soul I'm still keeping an optimistic light/view that Humanity capible of getting out of any bad non-optimal situation. I just not sure when this "time" when "you can not fool all of the people" will come. So, I think, generally I agree with Lincoln's saying.

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Is there a Russian phrase for optimistic hope?

"Their eyes are full of dusk
Their hearts are full of dawn." by Joseph Brodsky.
It's from his poem, here it is https://ruverses.com/joseph-brodsky/pilgrims/7591/

[firlandsfarm]

The only vaguely positive I've seen from Putin for yonks is suggesting he would be willing to engage in peace talks with Ukraine. Problem is - no-one believes him and the "offer" is predicated on Ukraine to stop trying to drive Putin's invasive forces off Ukraine's territory. Not much of an offer is it?
I think we both believe our leaders are failing us in one way or another. When I was 21 I thought by my current age all this crap would be sorted. C'est la vie.
Is there a Russian phrase for optimistic hope?

There cannot be meaningful peace talks. If Ukraine agrees to let Russia keep some of the land it has stolen from them then firstly that means Russia 'won' and they will be emboldened to look for more territory elsewhere and secondly they will always be subject to 'resistance' attacks from loyal Ukrainians as the Afghanis did to them and the west will keep those resistance fighters supplied. But if the peace talks are for Putin to withdraw he can never agree to that at home.

This war ends by either Russia taking all of Ukraine (but there will still be a resistance movement) or by Ukraine pushing Russia back into Russia.

[greenmark]

Deepdown, in a distant corner of my soul I'm still keeping an optimistic light/view that Humanity capible of getting out of any bad non-optimal situation. I just not sure when this "time" when "you can not fool all of the people" will come. So, I think, generally I agree with Lincoln's saying.

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Is there a Russian phrase for optimistic hope?

"Their eyes are full of dusk
Their hearts are full of dawn." by Joseph Brodsky.
It's from his poem, here it is https://ruverses.com/joseph-brodsky/pilgrims/7591/

Apologies.
Found a better reference/translation and those two sentences are very moving in the context of the poem.
Thanks for broadening my cultural horizon. Isn't it about being displaced
as humans are too regularly. And they trudge to new places with sorrow and stress in their eyes, but the best also have hope and belief for something better, sooner or later. But in any case the world will continue with or without humans.

[Archery1969]

Ukrainian drone destroys Russian supersonic bomber

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66573842

Nearly wet myself with laughter.

[to75ne]

touch wood, fingers crossed, the head of the Wagner mercenary group Yevgeny Prigozhin, as possibly been killed in a plane crash outside moscow.

[Derek27]

touch wood, fingers crossed, the head of the Wagner mercenary group Yevgeny Prigozhin, as possibly been killed in a plane crash outside moscow.

It's been confirmed he was on the passenger list and nobody on board survived, just waiting for confirmation that he was actually on board.

The dangerous thing about aircrafts is that it doesn't make any difference whether you're near a window or not.

[Derek27]

Don't mean to be negative, but I think there's a fair chance he arranged for a bomb to be on board and decided to get a cab at the last minute, after withdrawing his ransom in cash.

[Derek27]

Russian sources including the Wanker group themselves admit that Prickozhin is dead, along with his second in command. They will be sadly missed.