Today's Greyhounds

[Crazyskier]

Does anyone know anything about the 6 runners/less than 6 runners ratio anomaly seen in recent months? So many races with nonruners. Is it weather or economy or rules changes related?

Do you know, there was a TWO DOG race the other week! And many tracks often go down to 4 or 3 for the majority of the card.

Not good for my lay place strategies based on 6 runners...

CS

[ShaunWhite]

Do you know, there was a TWO DOG race the other week! And many tracks often go down to 4 or 3 for the majority of the card.

Not good for my lay place strategies based on 6 runners...

CS

That's a rarity, only 2 races with 2 dogs since Jan 2021. There's been 4 races with 8 runners in that period!

6 dog races are a smaller proportion of races than they were, but I don't like guesswork so I ran the numbers.
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Jan 2021 - Aug 2023

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[napshnap]

Do you know, there was a TWO DOG race the other week! And many tracks often go down to 4 or 3 for the majority of the card.

Not good for my lay place strategies based on 6 runners...

CS

That's a rarity, only 2 races with 2 dogs since Jan 2021. There's been 4 races with 8 runners in that period!

6 dog races are a smaller proportion of races than they were, but I don't like guesswork so I ran the numbers.
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Jan 2021 - Aug 2023

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Hmm, spikes for each year around summer-early autumn. My guess it is hot weather and dogs health related, so it's gonna be every year pattern. As for the trend... I think it's effect of that new regulation that forbids dogs to run if it didnt get rest enough. And, in general, the result of pressure of animal rights organizations.

[getagrip68]

I think there is a bit of an issue in the summer when kennel cough is more prevalent.

They changed the rules of racing in May last year to read:

A Greyhound shall not run more than once in any four-day period and shall only run a maximum of six times in any 28-day period. A run is a trial or a race.

There is a general shortage of dogs (in the UK) so the rule change added to the problem, along with a couple of tracks re-opening.

On the plus side we seem to have given up with our dalliance with 8 dog races and now leave that to our Southern Hemisphere friends.

[banana_man]

Does anyone know anything about the 6 runners/less than 6 runners ratio anomaly seen in recent months? So many races with nonruners. Is it weather or economy or rules changes related?

Too many races and not enough dogs. Apparently they are decreasing the number of races next year to fix this. I think the early morning meetings starting at 08:12 are gonna be scrapped. Also the sport is dying. We just had 2 of the biggest events of the year for greyhounds in the Irish derby and English derby recently and there was very little mention of it anywhere. I watch RPGTV every now and then and they're always moaning about the sport dying, poor prize money, too many races, bookies having too much control, animal rights protestors etc.

[napshnap]

Thanks, guys. That's not inspiring...

[ShaunWhite]

And, in general, the result of pressure of animal rights organizations.

I was hoping it was that.

That's almost certainly a polarising issue though, so we'll have to agree to disagree otherwise there'll be a barney and I'll end up keeping the info to myself

But that's the nature of forums, you can't pick and choose who reads what you post, some you like and some you wouldn't piss on if they were on fire. .

[Crazyskier]

Does anyone know anything about the 6 runners/less than 6 runners ratio anomaly seen in recent months? So many races with nonruners. Is it weather or economy or rules changes related?

Too many races and not enough dogs. Apparently they are decreasing the number of races next year to fix this. I think the early morning meetings starting at 08:12 are gonna be scrapped. Also the sport is dying. We just had 2 of the biggest events of the year for greyhounds in the Irish derby and English derby recently and there was very little mention of it anywhere. I watch RPGTV every now and then and they're always moaning about the sport dying, poor prize money, too many races, bookies having too much control, animal rights protestors etc.

I won't miss the 8.12 Suffolk starts! 10.46 is quite adequate, given that the latest summer tracks go to after 10pm, Romford and I think Hove often seem to have two events per day, one early and one later in the evening.

Also, Ladbrokes and other bookies are buying up the profitable stadiums, to save them from the local councils that wish to sell for housing developments, so better that than no doggies IMO.

CS

[iggypop37]

Number of favs winning seems to have shot up the last week or so .

That's not a scientific observation btw just anecdotal based on returns

[ShaunWhite]

Number of favs winning seems to have shot up the last week or so .

That's not a scientific observation btw just anecdotal based on returns

So maybe not the number of them, but the value of them?

[iggypop37]

Number of favs winning seems to have shot up the last week or so .

That's not a scientific observation btw just anecdotal based on returns

So maybe not the number of them, but the value of them?

Have to so more analysis shaun ..

[buyshirts]

Shaun sorry if this is over stepping the mark but do you have the numbers for market volumes in comparison to the amount of runners?
Basically is the reduction in overal runners leading to lower traded volumes?

[ShaunWhite]

Shaun sorry if this is over stepping the mark but do you have the numbers for market volumes in comparison to the amount of runners?
Basically is the reduction in overal runners leading to lower traded volumes?

Vol per runner? Could do but I'm away for a few days.

Maybe someone else can do it? I can't be the only one who collects data although maybe I am. I recently asked for some stats on footy, tennis, golf or basically anything of any size, and no fckr could be bothered to post anything meaningful, or, they don't know.

[buyshirts]

Fair enough i do collect some data but not amount of runners. I was just chancing my arm to see if you had it "to hand"

The more helpful you are the more you get asked!

[ShaunWhite]

The more helpful you are the more you get asked!

That's why Dallas is always being asked things, and he doesn't just post 'a reply' it's a really thorough one you know he's thought about. Whatever he's paid it's not enough.

I don't have any problem being asked shirts, I'm not precious about it and it's in the spirit of the word "community" as it says at the top of the page.