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napshnap wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:30 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:24 pm
Archangel wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:48 pm


That's quite a statement. They bombed a school today 😳
I very much doubt the children were the target of the attack out of pure revenge. I wouldn't be surprised if Hamas were in or near the school.

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the allies bombed a restaurant they believed Saddam was eating at. Even if he was there they would still have killed a lot of civilians, they would have known they're killing civilians but it doesn't mean it was intentional - they weren't the target of the attack.
Yeeah, what a bunch of losers, goin' to the restaurant, eatin' their kebabs where nato's bombs are flying!

Really, you can't be serious.
I think we can agree killing is wrong, killing civilians is just on the extreme end of killing. Soldiers have a reasonable acceptance that they may die. Civiilans are defenceless. The victims of Hamas were defenceless. Some were at a concert FFS. Hamas are terrorists using civilians as a shield while they plot their next crime.
I'm with Israel. Go in and wipe Hamas off the face of the earth.
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greenmark wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:03 pm
napshnap wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:30 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:24 pm


I very much doubt the children were the target of the attack out of pure revenge. I wouldn't be surprised if Hamas were in or near the school.

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the allies bombed a restaurant they believed Saddam was eating at. Even if he was there they would still have killed a lot of civilians, they would have known they're killing civilians but it doesn't mean it was intentional - they weren't the target of the attack.
Yeeah, what a bunch of losers, goin' to the restaurant, eatin' their kebabs where nato's bombs are flying!

Really, you can't be serious.
I think we can agree killing is wrong, killing civilians is just on the extreme end of killing. Soldiers have a reasonable acceptance that they may die. Civiilans are defenceless. The victims of Hamas were defenceless. Some were at a concert FFS. Hamas are terrorists using civilians as a shield while they plot their next crime.
I'm with Israel. Go in and wipe Hamas off the face of the earth.
All Israel will achieve is the next generation of terrorists/Jewish killers. Hamas leaders are based in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Lebanon and Iran. Israel can’t go after them without creating a shit show in the region.
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greenmark wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:03 pm
Civiilans are defenceless. The victims of Hamas were defenceless.
Most of the victims of Israel are defenceless civilians. How you can simply say one side are committing terrorist acts and the others arent is completely illogical
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Anna Botting has completely lost her cool and impartiality with an Israeli official. Pretty appalling, it was more like an argument on here rather than a Sky News broadcast. :lol:
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Archangel wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:13 pm
greenmark wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:03 pm
Civiilans are defenceless. The victims of Hamas were defenceless.
Most of the victims of Israel are defenceless civilians. How you can simply say one side are committing terrorist acts and the others arent is completely illogical
I understand your view. But actions speak louder than words. Hamas launched an attack on Israel and are now attempting to use civilians as a shield. Hamas are a pile of shit and they don't care about anybody but themselves.
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I'll be interested to hear what experts like Michael Clarke or Sean Bell have to say tomorrow, but for Anna Botting to end an interview with the words, "I'm not with you"; that's the equivalent of me telling somebody on this forum that they're talking complete bollocks - totally unacceptable for Sky News!
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Biden's trip to Israel likely to be delayed ... until they can get him off the toilet!
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I'm not nailing my colours to any mast, but with Hamas getting hammered by Israeli attacks, a rocket attack on one of their hospitals that the Israelis could be blamed for would not only be a powerful weapon but something they would do. I wouldn't rule anything out at the moment.
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Kai wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:26 pm
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Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:32 pm
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For all the talk about Russia committing war crimes in Ukraine, a lot of NATO allies don't seem to have a problem with it if Israel are doing it in Gaza
Russia are the baddies and Israel aren't intentionally killing civilians. Plus, Hamas intentionally position themselves amongst civilians so whatever you think of Israeli tactics there's no comparison between the two.
Guess which thread is at the bottom of page 4!
It's not there any more. :D
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I think the world needs to be more concerned not if, but when Hezbollah become involved in this crisis.
Hence, the International posturing !!!!
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Crazyskier wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2023 2:58 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2023 8:55 am
Religion has caused more wars in the name of peace than all other reasons for war added together!
I disagree.

Religions all generally teach tolerance, love and respect, but MEN misusing. misquoting and misinterpreting the extreme elements of religion, have indeed caused much heartache and suffering - 7/7 and 9/11 to name a couple in my lifetime.

EDIT - you could apply that argument to almost ANY war - It's about a twisted ideology that MEN, persuade others is worth killing for. I and billions like me believe God to be love, in it's purest form. See Lewis Hamilton's neck for more info : - )

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I disagree! :D

Whether it is the religious teachings or that some have used their interpretation of religion to create war, religion has still caused it, directly or indirectly.

BTW I have no desire to see LH's neck nor do I care what he has had done to it. Like Gary Lineker he is just a sporting celebrity, his view on life is no more defining than yours and mine.
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:18 am
Zaka, the organisation responsible for collecting the dead bodies, are forced to treat all the bodies with respect. Even the Hamas scumbags!
I understand what annoys you but how can they decide if a body is that of a deceased member of Hamas or an innocent Palestinian
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Archangel wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:10 am
For all the talk about Russia committing war crimes in Ukraine, a lot of NATO allies don't seem to have a problem with it if Israel are doing it in Gaza
Shhh, don't tell them, they will have to concoct another story to deflect the question.
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:15 pm
I've known quite a few religious people who feel when good things happen to them, that's God looking after them. When bad things happen to other people that's down to their lack of faith. But when good things happen to other people or bad things happen to them, they don't even bother wondering why!
:lol: :lol: :lol: That is so true!
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:32 pm
Russia are the baddies and Israel aren't intentionally killing civilians. Plus, Hamas intentionally position themselves amongst civilians so whatever you think of Israeli tactics there's no comparison between the two.
Good job there were no civilians in that hospital then!
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