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Kai
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I love this guy's style!

An Idiot (Westerner's) Guide to Hamas : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIfCNVJlKs
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Kai wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:39 pm
I love this guy's style!

An Idiot (Westerner's) Guide to Hamas : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIfCNVJlKs
:lol:
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Kai wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:39 pm
I love this guy's style!

An Idiot (Westerner's) Guide to Hamas : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIfCNVJlKs
Hamas have said they want to destroy Israel and establish a global caliphate.
Good luck with that.
But when we read of Israeli settlers routinely killing Palestinians while IDF soldiers stand by. you have to weigh the facts.
I still believe Hamas do not represent the overall Palestinian view, but Israel isn't morally squeaky clean here either.
But for some some reason Israel has become a target for Islamic hatred. It's bonkers. Arabs and Israeli's have more in common with each other than any other nationality/relgion/culture/language. It's completely insane what they are doing to each other.
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greenmark wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:03 pm
Hamas have...

But when...

But for...
Perfect example of an attempt at Westerner rationalization, just like the video author showcased! With 2 buts even!
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Kai wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:16 pm
greenmark wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:03 pm
Hamas have...

But when...

But for...
Perfect example of an attempt at Westerner rationalization, just like the video author showcased! With 2 buts even!
:lol:
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Litter boxes in schools for kids who identify as cats. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:30 pm
Kai wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:16 pm
greenmark wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:03 pm
Hamas have...

But when...

But for...
Perfect example of an attempt at Westerner rationalization, just like the video author showcased! With 2 buts even!
:lol:
What am I rationalizing Kai? Hamas has declared the latest iterration of their war on Israel's existence. Israel has been killing Palestinians for decades. Are either right? Of course not. They share a claim for the land. Killing is f**king pointless, wasteful of human life and counter productive.
Mock me if you like. I don't hear anything positive from you on the solution, just voyeuristic detachment.
Don't just laugh Derek. Explain your mirth. The Israel-Hamas war is a s**t-show.
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Killing is not pointless if Hamas terrorists are being killed. :D
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Hamas release another two hostages (for humanitarian reasons, obviously they don't know what the word means) and say more will be released if the bombardment stops. That would suggest the bombing must really be hurting them. They won't care about civilians.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:41 pm
Israel only exists becuase of money and hardware supplied by the USA.

Most on here need a flipping history lesson as all seem to accept the narrative.



The Jewish people were living on that land 3,000 years ago and displaced by Romans about 2,000 years ago. it predates the formation of the United States by a very, very long time.

Some daft folk also blame Britain for the whole mess which is utter nonsense too.
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Kai wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:39 pm
I love this guy's style!

An Idiot (Westerner's) Guide to Hamas : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIfCNVJlKs
I can't tell if he is being serious, or just being an idiot 🤔
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Kai
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greenmark wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:05 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:30 pm
Kai wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:16 pm


Perfect example of an attempt at Westerner rationalization, just like the video author showcased! With 2 buts even!
:lol:
What am I rationalizing Kai? Hamas has declared the latest iterration of their war on Israel's existence. Israel has been killing Palestinians for decades. Are either right? Of course not. They share a claim for the land. Killing is f**king pointless, wasteful of human life and counter productive.
Mock me if you like. I don't hear anything positive from you on the solution, just voyeuristic detachment.
Don't just laugh Derek. Explain your mirth. The Israel-Hamas war is a s**t-show.
Jesus wept greenmark, how oblivious can you get

You comment on a video to say exactly what the video repeatedly tells the viewer not to say, it even jokes that the viewer will fail to understand its message and STILL probably say it regardless

So you'll have to forgive Derek for finding that ironic, and true
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Senior Hamas leader, Khaled Meshaal, says that Hamas hasn't killed any Israelis, it's all made up by the media.

This guy could compete with Alex!
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Kai wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:02 pm
greenmark wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:05 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:30 pm


:lol:
What am I rationalizing Kai? Hamas has declared the latest iterration of their war on Israel's existence. Israel has been killing Palestinians for decades. Are either right? Of course not. They share a claim for the land. Killing is f**king pointless, wasteful of human life and counter productive.
Mock me if you like. I don't hear anything positive from you on the solution, just voyeuristic detachment.
Don't just laugh Derek. Explain your mirth. The Israel-Hamas war is a s**t-show.
Jesus wept greenmark, how oblivious can you get

You comment on a video to say exactly what the video repeatedly tells the viewer not to say, it even jokes that the viewer will fail to understand its message and STILL probably say it regardless

So you'll have to forgive Derek for finding that ironic, and true
Instead of hiding behind opinionated and obtuse vids. Why don't YOU say what YOU actually think. What do YOU think about the Israel-Hamas war?

I am far from oblivious, I, like any decent person, am trying to understand the carnage we are told about.
Sure I could be oblivious - it's happening 1000's of kilometres away so its not my problem.
But it's actually everybody's problem.
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Kai
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greenmark wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 10:23 pm
Instead of hiding behind opinionated and obtuse vids. Why don't YOU say what YOU actually think. What do YOU think about the Israel-Hamas war?
Thought I said plenty already, especially last few days? The vids echo my opinion, that's why I posted them?

Perhaps you would notice what other people are saying if you weren't so absorbed in your idealistic rants about the world.

Not that my opinion matters anyway or isn't subject to change, I am learning about the history and situation as things develop, like everyone else.
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