Israel/Palestine conflict

[Derek27]

Tens of thousands of people protesting and chanting, "Stop bombing Gaza. Stop bombing Gaza...".

If that doesn't solve the problem I don't know what will. I'm sure PM Yahoo will take note.

[Archery1969]

Turkey says Hamas is not a terrorist organisation.

This won’t end well….

[Derek27]

Turkey says Hamas is not a terrorist organisation.

This won’t end well….

Turkey has no place in NATO, but they can't be kicked out. I'm not even sure if the agreement has any provisions for doing so, or exactly what you have to do to be kicked out.

[Archery1969]

Turkey says Hamas is not a terrorist organisation.

This won’t end well….

Turkey has no place in NATO, but they can't be kicked out. I'm not even sure if the agreement has any provisions for doing so, or exactly what you have to do to be kicked out.

There is no provision in the NATO treaty for a member to be expelled by other members.

This came up before in 2016 and 2019 when the US, France and UK were outraged by Turkey’s stance on Syria.

If there was a way to expel Turkey then it’s highly unlikely it would be enacted on given its regional location. Many, rightly or wrongly see Turkey as a stabilising force in the region which could at any point turn into chaos.

But the big problem is that Turkey, historically is no friend of Israel and militarily could match them on the battlefield. This causes a major headache for the US and NATO if Turkey was to take sides in any regional conflict.

In a conventional type conflict it’s not even clear if the USA could defeat Turkey. After all, they have supplied them with military hardware for years and train there fighter pilots along with the UK RAF. Turkey has one of the biggest land armies in the world and its well equipped.

Many argue they should be expelled but the consequences could be catastrophic for the region.

The last fallout was when Turkey purchased 1,000 Russian S-400 missile systems. The USA and NATO were not impressed one bit!!!!

[Archery1969]

Turkey accuses Israel of being a war criminal and Israel recalls its diplomats.

Like I said, this won’t end well and could ignite the entire region into conflict.

Putin will be loving this as it’s buddies are Turkey and Syria.

[jamesg46]

Turkey says Hamas is not a terrorist organisation.

This won’t end well….

Turkey has no place in NATO, but they can't be kicked out. I'm not even sure if the agreement has any provisions for doing so, or exactly what you have to do to be kicked out.

Turkey has no place in NATO? Turkey is the gatekeeper of the Black Sea!

[Derek27]

But the big problem is that Turkey, historically is no friend of Israel and militarily could match them on the battlefield. This causes a major headache for the US and NATO if Turkey was to take sides in any regional conflict.

What is NATO's position if a NATO member starts a war with another NATO member?

[Rollox]

To anybody that cares, I studied the second world war to such a degree that I said to myself genocide can't happen again.
Yet it's happening,, I'm not Jewish or Palestinian for the love of god stop killing each other.
I'm sick of it loss of life for no need. All we need is water and according to Derek potatoes

[Derek27]

To anybody that cares, I studied the second world war to such a degree that I said to myself genocide can't happen again.
Yet it's happening,, I'm not Jewish or Palestinian for the love of god stop killing each other.
I'm sick of it loss of life for no need. All we need is water and according to Derek potatoes

If nobody ever believed in god, I'm not saying that wars, or even the Israel/Hamas conflict wouldn't happen, but I'd love to see a documentary about how the conflict started, without any reference to religion.

[Rollox]

I'm free Presbyterian very strict, I think that helps with my trading.
I can't be fucked with killing .just sick of it if it's not whites against blacks it's something else.
Last time I checked I had a pair of lungs and a heart were all the same, just a pity the idiots can't realize that.
VPS rules I'm oot just sick of conflict.

[Rollox]

Question to you Derek what was Israel before it was Israel in today's world. The Jews and the Palestine's and then yes we meddled in just a total fuck up.
Powers that be at the time couldnty sort it and here we are some 70 years later humanity has not learnt its lesson very ugly.

[Derek27]

Question to you Derek what was Israel before it was Israel in today's world. The Jews and the Palestine's and then yes we meddled in just a total fuck up.
Powers that be at the time couldnty sort it and here we are some 70 years later humanity has not learnt its lesson very ugly.

Depends how far back in time you go. It was once molten rock without any life.

When you say, "we" meddled..., who are you referring to? It wasn't me!

[Rollox]

Just meaning the UK.

[Derek27]

Just meaning the UK.

Your question was, "what was Israel before it was Israel in today's world".

"Just meaning the UK" doesn't make the question any clearer - Israel was never in the UK?

[Kai]

I must admit I don't understand this level of hatred, and probably never will : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bACNYtaLBQI

I guess it explains why the terrorists were welcomed back as heroes from their raid into Israel

But even if you kill Hamas how do you kill this idea, you can't anymore, you'll just create martyrs... if the US failed to do it in Iraq you won't do much better, it's likely going to be another in a long list of Israeli mistakes