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tryingtotrade
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Good evening,
started using Guardian automation more, wonder what would be the easiest way to get alerted in case of a Betfair API issues or better even turn Guardian off if I’m not around. Any solutions that you have found? Thank you
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Euler
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Price stream failed on the 14:15 Plumpton for some reason. OK on all other races, polling OK.
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jamesedwards
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Euler wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:21 pm
Price stream failed on the 14:15 Plumpton for some reason. OK on all other races, polling OK.
Same issue for me.
wilf
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That cost me £140 cheers Betfair. I did get some matched on another exchange or it would've been more!
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Euler wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:21 pm
Price stream failed on the 14:15 Plumpton for some reason. OK on all other races, polling OK.
Same for greyhounds Suffolk 14:16:00

And last night in AUS there was no BSP figures for Scone 04:40:00 & Kyneton 04:00:00
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jamesedwards
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wilf wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:37 pm
That cost me £140 cheers Betfair. I did get some matched on another exchange or it would've been more!
Triggers and bet placement were still working fine for me. Just the flow of prices and bet status that stalled.
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Bobajob
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jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:54 pm
wilf wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:37 pm
That cost me £140 cheers Betfair. I did get some matched on another exchange or it would've been more!
Triggers and bet placement were still working fine for me. Just the flow of prices and bet status that stalled.
If streaming had stopped how come your triggers and bet placement were still working - unless triggered entirely by TPD ?
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Bobajob
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wilf wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:37 pm
That cost me £140 cheers Betfair. I did get some matched on another exchange or it would've been more!
Just another 'hazard' to worry about - a bit like horses falling. Betfair must 'hoover' all those bets up.
Nice little money earner.
You've been 'robbed' Wilf - I bet the 'affordability' checks are not addressing that.
Like Betfair are not going to be ringing you up and saying you've just lost £140 - can you afford that ?
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Euler
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wilf wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:37 pm
That cost me £140 cheers Betfair. I did get some matched on another exchange or it would've been more!
On Bet Angel you can switch between streaming and polling. So when the feed stuck, I just quickly switched to polling.
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jamesedwards
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Bobajob wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:14 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:54 pm
wilf wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:37 pm
That cost me £140 cheers Betfair. I did get some matched on another exchange or it would've been more!
Triggers and bet placement were still working fine for me. Just the flow of prices and bet status that stalled.
If streaming had stopped how come your triggers and bet placement were still working - unless triggered entirely by TPD ?
I'm on streaming (didn't switch to polling) and my trade triggers were still actioned in a timely fashion as normal. It just looks like they weren't because bet statuses weren't updating. Judging by the prices I was matched at the actual prices available behaved as normal.
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Bobajob
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jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:50 pm
Bobajob wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:14 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:54 pm


Triggers and bet placement were still working fine for me. Just the flow of prices and bet status that stalled.
If streaming had stopped how come your triggers and bet placement were still working - unless triggered entirely by TPD ?
I'm on streaming (didn't switch to polling) and my trade triggers were still actioned in a timely fashion as normal. It just looks like they weren't because bet statuses weren't updating. Judging by the prices I was matched at the actual prices available behaved as normal.
I'm puzzled - your triggers were still working and Wilf lost £140 ?
Log file shows last prices for Birdman Bob was 8.8 at the time of suspension

20/11/2023 14:20:02: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Birdman Bob: BP = 8.8

20/11/2023 14:20:02: Market has been suspended

The market wasn't unsuspended - so how were your triggers still working ?
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Euler wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:42 pm
wilf wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:37 pm
That cost me £140 cheers Betfair. I did get some matched on another exchange or it would've been more!
On Bet Angel you can switch between streaming and polling. So when the feed stuck, I just quickly switched to polling.
Yeah, I should've just switched. I'm so used to just going to another exchange to cancel the trade. It's ok though, I made it back in the 15:40 so not to bad.
The markets have been decent for a Monday some big moves. More liquidity would be nice, but atleast they're still tradable.
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Bobajob
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wilf wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:23 pm
Euler wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:42 pm
wilf wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:37 pm
That cost me £140 cheers Betfair. I did get some matched on another exchange or it would've been more!
On Bet Angel you can switch between streaming and polling. So when the feed stuck, I just quickly switched to polling.
Yeah, I should've just switched. I'm so used to just going to another exchange to cancel the trade. It's ok though, I made it back in the 15:40 so not to bad.
The markets have been decent for a Monday some big moves. More liquidity would be nice, but atleast they're still tradable.
Switching to 'polling' wouldn't have worked - the 'market' was suspended
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Bobajob wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:13 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:50 pm
Bobajob wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:14 pm

If streaming had stopped how come your triggers and bet placement were still working - unless triggered entirely by TPD ?
I'm on streaming (didn't switch to polling) and my trade triggers were still actioned in a timely fashion as normal. It just looks like they weren't because bet statuses weren't updating. Judging by the prices I was matched at the actual prices available behaved as normal.
I'm puzzled - your triggers were still working and Wilf lost £140 ?
Log file shows last prices for Birdman Bob was 8.8 at the time of suspension

20/11/2023 14:20:02: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Birdman Bob: BP = 8.8

20/11/2023 14:20:02: Market has been suspended

The market wasn't unsuspended - so how were your triggers still working ?
The prices weren't updating through into Bet Angel so weren't reflecting the real prices available. So although BA said Birdman Bob was 8.8 through to suspension it wasn't really that price. It was no-offers by at least half a furlong out.

20/11/2023 14:19:09: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: market_metres_to_finish = 112.1 = 112
20/11/2023 14:19:09: Back bet placed on Birdman Bob at 1.01. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.
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Bobajob
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jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:41 pm
Bobajob wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:13 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:50 pm


I'm on streaming (didn't switch to polling) and my trade triggers were still actioned in a timely fashion as normal. It just looks like they weren't because bet statuses weren't updating. Judging by the prices I was matched at the actual prices available behaved as normal.
I'm puzzled - your triggers were still working and Wilf lost £140 ?
Log file shows last prices for Birdman Bob was 8.8 at the time of suspension

20/11/2023 14:20:02: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Birdman Bob: BP = 8.8

20/11/2023 14:20:02: Market has been suspended

The market wasn't unsuspended - so how were your triggers still working ?
The prices weren't updating through into Bet Angel so weren't reflecting the real prices available. So although BA said Birdman Bob was 8.8 through to suspension it wasn't really that price. It was no-offers by at least half a furlong out.

20/11/2023 14:19:09: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: market_metres_to_finish = 112.1 = 112
20/11/2023 14:19:09: Back bet placed on Birdman Bob at 1.01. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market.
Looks like Betfair data froze 8 secs after race started 14:15:33

20/11/2023 14:15:41: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Birdman Bob: BP = 8.8

Which brings me back to my original question - how come your triggers were still working when the data was not changing unless TPD was doing it which I assume was still working - and how does my log file make no ref to Birdman Bob at 1.01 and your log file does ?
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