UK General Election July 4th 2024 - Trading ONLY thread

[jamesedwards]

I don't think I have seen a more pathetic figure than Sunaks speech in the rain...

Could be the Tories get a proper kicking

Having watched it. I can only say you can't rely on British weather.
Regarding what he said, it was standard Tory cobblers that we've endured for 14 years.
Blaming covid and ukraine. No mention of brexit, the BJ and Lettuce Liz fiasco's. No mention emasculating the "flagship" HS2.
No mention of water companies creaming off dividends, dumping s**t into our water and leaving inoperable companies and their customers to pick up the tab.
No mention of a Tory govt forced into taking rail operators back into public ownership because they can't regulate a wet paper bag.
And let's not trawl back over the nepotistic alllocation of contracts during covid.
Rishi, go ahead with your BS. If the electorate fall for this again, we're sunk.

Why on earth would he mention any of that?

[greenmark]

I don't think I have seen a more pathetic figure than Sunaks speech in the rain...

Could be the Tories get a proper kicking

Having watched it. I can only say you can't rely on British weather.
Regarding what he said, it was standard Tory cobblers that we've endured for 14 years.
Blaming covid and ukraine. No mention of brexit, the BJ and Lettuce Liz fiasco's. No mention emasculating the "flagship" HS2.
No mention of water companies creaming off dividends, dumping s**t into our water and leaving inoperable companies and their customers to pick up the tab.
No mention of a Tory govt forced into taking rail operators back into public ownership because they can't regulate a wet paper bag.
And let's not trawl back over the nepotistic alllocation of contracts during covid.
Rishi, go ahead with your BS. If the electorate fall for this again, we're sunk.

Why on earth would he mention any of that?

Of course, but in the interest of democracy I felt compelled to witter on about what a mess 14 years of any crap govt, whether Tory or Labour.
I stand to be corrected on any point and be directed to any success over the last 14 years.
There must be some, surely.
Ok I can think of one. Super rapid creation of a covid vaccination.
Any others?

[Derek27]

Having watched it. I can only say you can't rely on British weather.

You can rely on an umbrella.

[Derek27]

Sunak out and about meeting ordinary plebs, and the hot topic is still his soaking wet suit.

I'm hoping somebody asks, has your suit dried yet?

[Derek27]

Michale Gove, Andrea Leadsom, Thereasa May, Ben Wallace, Nadhim Zahawi, Savid Javid, Kamikaze Kwarteng, Dominic Raab, Matt HandOnCock, all going before the next election. What's left of the Conservative party will be unrecognisable, probably a good thing for them.

[Derek27]

flipping hell! Conservatives introducing new model of mandatory National Service!!!

Are they now on a suicide mission?

Labour, on the other hand, are considering reducing the voting age to 16. Not just more appealing to young people than NS, but about 80% of 16 year olds are likely to vote Labour!

[Derek27]

So, National Service is "mandatory", but no criminal sanction for refusing to sign up!

What will it be? A £50 fine?

[ForFolksSake]

Having watched it. I can only say you can't rely on British weather.
Regarding what he said, it was standard Tory cobblers that we've endured for 14 years.
Blaming covid and ukraine. No mention of brexit, the BJ and Lettuce Liz fiasco's. No mention emasculating the "flagship" HS2.
No mention of water companies creaming off dividends, dumping s**t into our water and leaving inoperable companies and their customers to pick up the tab.
No mention of a Tory govt forced into taking rail operators back into public ownership because they can't regulate a wet paper bag.
And let's not trawl back over the nepotistic alllocation of contracts during covid.
Rishi, go ahead with your BS. If the electorate fall for this again, we're sunk.

Why on earth would he mention any of that?

Of course, but in the interest of democracy I felt compelled to witter on about what a mess 14 years of any crap govt, whether Tory or Labour.
I stand to be corrected on any point and be directed to any success over the last 14 years.
There must be some, surely.
Ok I can think of one. Super rapid creation of a covid vaccination.
Any others?

Ok I can think of one. Super rapid creation of a covid vaccination.

How do you prove the vaccinations were any good

[greenmark]

Why on earth would he mention any of that?

Of course, but in the interest of democracy I felt compelled to witter on about what a mess 14 years of any crap govt, whether Tory or Labour.
I stand to be corrected on any point and be directed to any success over the last 14 years.
There must be some, surely.
Ok I can think of one. Super rapid creation of a covid vaccination.
Any others?

Ok I can think of one. Super rapid creation of a covid vaccination.

How do you prove the vaccinations were any good

Sorry, but we've been all over that discussion here.

Meantime, the Tories are going to bring back national service. I imagine the military are going potty.
Last thing military professionals want is to be inundated with incompetent, reluctant conscripts.
They've been screaming about cuts and lack of money for ages. Conscription would be a real slap in the face.

[jamesedwards]

Of course, but in the interest of democracy I felt compelled to witter on about what a mess 14 years of any crap govt, whether Tory or Labour.
I stand to be corrected on any point and be directed to any success over the last 14 years.
There must be some, surely.
Ok I can think of one. Super rapid creation of a covid vaccination.
Any others?

Ok I can think of one. Super rapid creation of a covid vaccination.

How do you prove the vaccinations were any good

Sorry, but we've been all over that discussion here.

Meantime, the Tories are going to bring back national service. I imagine the military are going potty.
Last thing military professionals want is to be inundated with incompetent, reluctant conscripts.
They've been screaming about cuts and lack of money for ages. Conscription would be a real slap in the face.

National Service is a proper vote winner, apart from those doing it. But, of course, they would never vote Conservative anyway.

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[Derek27]

How do you prove the vaccinations were any good

Sorry, but we've been all over that discussion here.

Meantime, the Tories are going to bring back national service. I imagine the military are going potty.
Last thing military professionals want is to be inundated with incompetent, reluctant conscripts.
They've been screaming about cuts and lack of money for ages. Conscription would be a real slap in the face.

National Service is a proper vote winner, apart from those doing it. But, of course, they would never vote Conservative anyway.


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The percentage of young Conservative voters, whilst small is still significant. Plus, there will be parents and grandparents thinking their offspring could do something better in a year like studying or working than a year of unpaid work.

Still no mention what the penalty is for not doing the mandatory voluntary work, but if it's anything severe it could fall foul of the slavery laws.

[greenmark]

Sorry, but we've been all over that discussion here.

Meantime, the Tories are going to bring back national service. I imagine the military are going potty.
Last thing military professionals want is to be inundated with incompetent, reluctant conscripts.
They've been screaming about cuts and lack of money for ages. Conscription would be a real slap in the face.

National Service is a proper vote winner, apart from those doing it. But, of course, they would never vote Conservative anyway.


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The percentage of young Conservative voters, whilst small is still significant. Plus, there will be parents and grandparents thinking their offspring could do something better in a year like studying or working than a year of unpaid work.

Still no mention what the penalty is for not doing the mandatory voluntary work, but if it's anything severe it could fall foul of the slavery laws.

Let's face it. It's complete BS. Desperate describes it perfectly. The Tories lost the plot a long time ago, this just confirms that.
Labour have to score a catastrophic own goal to lose this election.

[Archery1969]

National Service is a proper vote winner, apart from those doing it. But, of course, they would never vote Conservative anyway.


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The percentage of young Conservative voters, whilst small is still significant. Plus, there will be parents and grandparents thinking their offspring could do something better in a year like studying or working than a year of unpaid work.

Still no mention what the penalty is for not doing the mandatory voluntary work, but if it's anything severe it could fall foul of the slavery laws.

Let's face it. It's complete BS. Desperate describes it perfectly. The Tories lost the plot a long time ago, this just confirms that.
Labour have to score a catastrophic own goal to lose this election.

What’s the problem, it happens in Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Austria and Switzerland to name a few.

The penalties in those countries can be rather harsh ranging from any benefits being stopped to possible imprisonment.

Hell, even Macron has brought back voluntary national service.

About time the snowflakes got a kick up the backside.

But what’s more worrying is the fact that maybe someone knows something most of the public doesn’t. i.e at some point that maybe the UK and/or Europe will be at war again.

[Derek27]

What’s the problem, it happens in Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Austria and Switzerland to name a few.

Those counties aren't governed by a bunch of raving lunatics.

No mention of how much it's going to cost or where the money's coming from!

[Archery1969]

What’s the problem, it happens in Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Austria and Switzerland to name a few.

Those counties aren't governed by a bunch of raving lunatics.

No mention of how much it's going to cost or where the money's coming from!

France is.

Initial costing is around £1 Billion.