UK General Election July 4th 2024 - Trading ONLY thread

[jamesedwards]

Starmer's well in preparation for the job of PM ... and making an arse of himself. I've always wondered what he means by "working people". He now defines them as people who work and can't afford to write a cheque when they're in trouble!

Looks like we're in for it over the next 4-5 years. What decade is he living in? Does anyone still use a cheque book?

I think upon clarification he meant “people who work don’t have savings they can call upon if they in trouble”

Now a secret memo has been leaked about Labour going after those with savings and private pensions over a certain amount.

Personally, I am very glad I moved all my finances out of the UK a few months ago.

I think people with any kind of assets are going to get hammered. After all, they have to close the black hole and already committed to not raising income tax and NI on basic rate tax payers.

Be interesting to see what they do once in power. Might get another 1970s when the rich did a runner overseas.

Would be a disaster. We need the rich more now than ever.

Imagine if we lost half of that top 1%.

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[Derek27]

I think upon clarification he meant “people who work don’t have savings they can call upon if they in trouble”

That really defines people below, on or just above the poverty line - nothing to do with working. For a former barrister, his communications have a lot to be desired.

[Archery1969]

I think upon clarification he meant “people who work don’t have savings they can call upon if they in trouble”

That really defines people below, on or just above the poverty line - nothing to do with working. For a former barrister, his communications have a lot to be desired.

Yeah, agreed but he didn't say that. Like you said, he could have explained that allot better.

But now he will have people who work and have some savings, even modest, possibly worried about what he and Labour might do. I am sure he/they wont below a certain threshold but with 2 weeks to go he could potential of alienated a few or allot by his comments etc.

At this stage, he just needs to steer the ship to No. 10 and not say or do anything to make people start to question his comments.

[Archery1969]

This is going to piss off allot of rural people in the Welsh Valleys and Scottish Highlands.

BBC News:

Labour will lift “the Conservatives' onshore wind ban in England” within days of coming to power, Ed Miliband told an industry conference in Manchester earlier.

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This is going to piss off allot of rural people in the Welsh Valleys and Scottish Highlands.

BBC News:

Labour will lift “the Conservatives' onshore wind ban in England” within days of coming to power, Ed Miliband told an industry conference in Manchester earlier.

It will annoy most in rural areas that have land that hey want to sequestrate for themselves. I vist East Fife 3 weeks a year and it is littered with wind farms. I don't have to live with them (I believe they can be audibly irritatingly annoying). But I like them. I thihnk they are benign statues to cleaner energy. They don't mar the landscape IMO. But I recognise others feel differently about wind turbines towering above them. We did/do suffer pylons which are plain hideous and I know from experience they buzz pretty annoyingly too.

[Archery1969]

This is going to piss off allot of rural people in the Welsh Valleys and Scottish Highlands.

BBC News:

Labour will lift “the Conservatives' onshore wind ban in England” within days of coming to power, Ed Miliband told an industry conference in Manchester earlier.

It will annoy most in rural areas that have land that hey want to sequestrate for themselves. I vist East Fife 3 weeks a year and it is littered with wind farms. I don't have to live with them (I believe they can be audibly irritatingly annoying). But I like them. I thihnk they are benign statues to cleaner energy. They don't mar the landscape IMO. But I recognise others feel differently about wind turbines towering above them. We did/do suffer pylons which are plain hideous and I know from experience they buzz pretty annoyingly too.

There was a program on TV last night about it. They will need hundreds of pylons to carry the electricity from the onshore wind farms to connect to the main grid. Those pylons will need to be built on existing dwellings and farmlands in Wales, Cumbria, Northumberland and the Scottish highlands / lowlands. It will be an eye sore and pain for hundreds of thousands of people.

Wales and Scotland are dissolved assemblies so I am sure they will vote against any labour plans to implement, which in the case of Wales could be a right torn in Sir Keirs backside. Plus there will be legal challenges across the country from farm and land owners.

It’s not the way to do it like I said previously, tidal power and mini nuclear stations as proposed by Rolls Royce and would generate over 300,000 new jobs and apprenticeships. Clean energy without looking at wind turbines, pylons and disruptions to most people’s lives.

Sir Keir said he wouldn’t mind a turbine or pylon at the bottom of his garden. He either blind, stupid or as I suspect, plain telling pork pies.

[jamesedwards]

This is going to piss off allot of rural people in the Welsh Valleys and Scottish Highlands.

BBC News:

Labour will lift “the Conservatives' onshore wind ban in England” within days of coming to power, Ed Miliband told an industry conference in Manchester earlier.

It will annoy most in rural areas that have land that hey want to sequestrate for themselves. I vist East Fife 3 weeks a year and it is littered with wind farms. I don't have to live with them (I believe they can be audibly irritatingly annoying). But I like them. I thihnk they are benign statues to cleaner energy. They don't mar the landscape IMO. But I recognise others feel differently about wind turbines towering above them. We did/do suffer pylons which are plain hideous and I know from experience they buzz pretty annoyingly too.

Not just the noise https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-Ke5RTUOI-A

[greenmark]

This is going to piss off allot of rural people in the Welsh Valleys and Scottish Highlands.

BBC News:

Labour will lift “the Conservatives' onshore wind ban in England” within days of coming to power, Ed Miliband told an industry conference in Manchester earlier.

It will annoy most in rural areas that have land that hey want to sequestrate for themselves. I vist East Fife 3 weeks a year and it is littered with wind farms. I don't have to live with them (I believe they can be audibly irritatingly annoying). But I like them. I thihnk they are benign statues to cleaner energy. They don't mar the landscape IMO. But I recognise others feel differently about wind turbines towering above them. We did/do suffer pylons which are plain hideous and I know from experience they buzz pretty annoyingly too.

There was a program on TV last night about it. They will need hundreds of pylons to carry the electricity from the onshore wind farms to connect to the main grid. Those pylons will need to be built on existing dwellings and farmlands in Wales, Cumbria, Northumberland and the Scottish highlands / lowlands. It will be an eye sore and pain for hundreds of thousands of people.

Wales and Scotland are dissolved assemblies so I am sure they will vote against any labour plans to implement, which in the case of Wales could be a right torn in Sir Keirs backside. Plus there will be legal challenges across the country from farm and land owners.

It’s not the way to do it like I said previously, tidal power and mini nuclear stations as proposed by Rolls Royce and would generate over 300,000 new jobs and apprenticeships. Clean energy without looking at wind turbines, pylons and disruptions to most people’s lives.

Sir Keir said he wouldn’t mind a turbine or pylon at the bottom of his garden. He either blind, stupid or as I suspect, plain telling pork pies.

Didn't see the programme but altough I have really noticedwind farms popping up, I can't say I've seen a noticeable increase in pylons. But they maybe because we've got used to them, so another 200 doesn't even register. Unless you happen to end up under a new one. It's another of those debates where the facts should be front and centre to be debated and not hidden behind political rhetoric (of politicians, I mean, not you ).

[Archery1969]

It will annoy most in rural areas that have land that hey want to sequestrate for themselves. I vist East Fife 3 weeks a year and it is littered with wind farms. I don't have to live with them (I believe they can be audibly irritatingly annoying). But I like them. I thihnk they are benign statues to cleaner energy. They don't mar the landscape IMO. But I recognise others feel differently about wind turbines towering above them. We did/do suffer pylons which are plain hideous and I know from experience they buzz pretty annoyingly too.

There was a program on TV last night about it. They will need hundreds of pylons to carry the electricity from the onshore wind farms to connect to the main grid. Those pylons will need to be built on existing dwellings and farmlands in Wales, Cumbria, Northumberland and the Scottish highlands / lowlands. It will be an eye sore and pain for hundreds of thousands of people.

Wales and Scotland are dissolved assemblies so I am sure they will vote against any labour plans to implement, which in the case of Wales could be a right torn in Sir Keirs backside. Plus there will be legal challenges across the country from farm and land owners.

It’s not the way to do it like I said previously, tidal power and mini nuclear stations as proposed by Rolls Royce and would generate over 300,000 new jobs and apprenticeships. Clean energy without looking at wind turbines, pylons and disruptions to most people’s lives.

Sir Keir said he wouldn’t mind a turbine or pylon at the bottom of his garden. He either blind, stupid or as I suspect, plain telling pork pies.

Didn't see the programme but altough I have really noticedwind farms popping up, I can't say I've seen a noticeable increase in pylons. But they maybe because we've got used to them, so another 200 doesn't even register. Unless you happen to end up under a new one. It's another of those debates where the facts should be front and centre to be debated and not hidden behind political rhetoric (of politicians, I mean, not you ).

That’s the good thing about living near the Dee River in Ontario now. All the land is protected by law. A few years back they tried to erect a couple of mobile phone towers. One of the workman got shot while up the tower. Never found out who did it. Hence they haven’t tried to build or erect any since. And no it wasn’t me who shot him.

[greenmark]

This is going to piss off allot of rural people in the Welsh Valleys and Scottish Highlands.

BBC News:

Labour will lift “the Conservatives' onshore wind ban in England” within days of coming to power, Ed Miliband told an industry conference in Manchester earlier.

It will annoy most in rural areas that have land that hey want to sequestrate for themselves. I vist East Fife 3 weeks a year and it is littered with wind farms. I don't have to live with them (I believe they can be audibly irritatingly annoying). But I like them. I thihnk they are benign statues to cleaner energy. They don't mar the landscape IMO. But I recognise others feel differently about wind turbines towering above them. We did/do suffer pylons which are plain hideous and I know from experience they buzz pretty annoyingly too.

Not just the noise https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-Ke5RTUOI-A

That's such a narrow view. There's no context at all. Were they there before the turbine? Was it somewhere they just stayed at ie holiday home? It does look bad I agree.

[greenmark]

There was a program on TV last night about it. They will need hundreds of pylons to carry the electricity from the onshore wind farms to connect to the main grid. Those pylons will need to be built on existing dwellings and farmlands in Wales, Cumbria, Northumberland and the Scottish highlands / lowlands. It will be an eye sore and pain for hundreds of thousands of people.

Wales and Scotland are dissolved assemblies so I am sure they will vote against any labour plans to implement, which in the case of Wales could be a right torn in Sir Keirs backside. Plus there will be legal challenges across the country from farm and land owners.

It’s not the way to do it like I said previously, tidal power and mini nuclear stations as proposed by Rolls Royce and would generate over 300,000 new jobs and apprenticeships. Clean energy without looking at wind turbines, pylons and disruptions to most people’s lives.

Sir Keir said he wouldn’t mind a turbine or pylon at the bottom of his garden. He either blind, stupid or as I suspect, plain telling pork pies.

Didn't see the programme but altough I have really noticedwind farms popping up, I can't say I've seen a noticeable increase in pylons. But they maybe because we've got used to them, so another 200 doesn't even register. Unless you happen to end up under a new one. It's another of those debates where the facts should be front and centre to be debated and not hidden behind political rhetoric (of politicians, I mean, not you ).

That’s the good thing about living near the Dee River in Ontario now. All the land is protected by law. A few years back they tried to erect a couple of mobile phone towers. One of the workman got shot while up the tower. Never found out who did it. Hence they haven’t tried to build or erect any since. And no it wasn’t me who shot him.

Glad to hear you are not guilty. Guy just doing his job doesn't deserve to be shot. But this fear of phone toers baffles me. It's tech. It can allow people in remote areas to remain in the wilderness but still have access to the world. It''s great, perfect. A few masts over the vastness of Canada are a small price. Unless you want wilderness to remain beyond the reach of civilisastion. Just remember Canada was once ALL wilderness and got populated. You can't stop humanity putting it's imprint on the landscape.

[Archery1969]

Didn't see the programme but altough I have really noticedwind farms popping up, I can't say I've seen a noticeable increase in pylons. But they maybe because we've got used to them, so another 200 doesn't even register. Unless you happen to end up under a new one. It's another of those debates where the facts should be front and centre to be debated and not hidden behind political rhetoric (of politicians, I mean, not you ).

That’s the good thing about living near the Dee River in Ontario now. All the land is protected by law. A few years back they tried to erect a couple of mobile phone towers. One of the workman got shot while up the tower. Never found out who did it. Hence they haven’t tried to build or erect any since. And no it wasn’t me who shot him.

Glad to hear you are not guilty. Guy just doing his job doesn't deserve to be shot. But this fear of phone toers baffles me. It's tech. It can allow people in remote areas to remain in the wilderness but still have access to the world. It''s great, perfect. A few masts over the vastness of Canada are a small price. Unless you want wilderness to remain beyond the reach of civilisastion. Just remember Canada was once ALL wilderness and got populated. You can't stop humanity putting it's imprint on the landscape.

From what I have read, they were disturbing the land banks used by Otter Families. People here in what UK would call very beautiful, remote and sometimes dangerous parts want it preserved that way. I’m not condoning someone being shot but I think we need to do everything to preserve the nature we have around the globe. The person shot didn’t die, was hit with buckshot in legs. Although, obviously, not very nice.

[greenmark]

That’s the good thing about living near the Dee River in Ontario now. All the land is protected by law. A few years back they tried to erect a couple of mobile phone towers. One of the workman got shot while up the tower. Never found out who did it. Hence they haven’t tried to build or erect any since. And no it wasn’t me who shot him.

Glad to hear you are not guilty. Guy just doing his job doesn't deserve to be shot. But this fear of phone toers baffles me. It's tech. It can allow people in remote areas to remain in the wilderness but still have access to the world. It''s great, perfect. A few masts over the vastness of Canada are a small price. Unless you want wilderness to remain beyond the reach of civilisastion. Just remember Canada was once ALL wilderness and got populated. You can't stop humanity putting it's imprint on the landscape.

From what I have read, they were disturbing the land banks used by Otter Families. People here in what UK would call very beautiful, remote and sometimes dangerous parts want it preserved that way. I’m not condoning someone being shot but I think we need to do everything to preserve the nature we have around the globe. The person shot didn’t die, was hit with buckshot in legs. Although, obviously, not very nice.

Ok. I think I'm with you. Wilderness should be preserved. East Fife or most parst of Scotland is not wilderness. It can sustain windfarms with no problem. I don't think sheep or cattle really give a toss about a wind turbine aboe their head, only humans.

[Derek27]

Really?

Didn't he lose £1K to Piers Morgan in a bet? He needed to recover the money.

Surely then he would have put £200 on? I don't think Sunak paid out in the end because one asylum seeker had been flown out.

He gave £100 to his aide, and £100 to his police close protection officer, who's just been arrested.

[Archery1969]

Didn't he lose £1K to Piers Morgan in a bet? He needed to recover the money.

Surely then he would have put £200 on? I don't think Sunak paid out in the end because one asylum seeker had been flown out.

He gave £100 to his aide, and £100 to his police close protection officer, who's just been arrested.

Sunak gave £100 to his close protection officer ? You spreading false truths and slander Derek ???