US Presidential Election 2024

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Taff15
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Trump will now bounce this around the courts again until he gets elected, then get it thrown out completed, by Presidential instructions.

Sort of backs up the thoughts that if you have enough money you can virtually get away with anything....so much for democracy...
greenmark
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Taff15 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:00 pm
Trump will now bounce this around the courts again until he gets elected, then get it thrown out completed, by Presidential instructions.

Sort of backs up the thoughts that if you have enough money you can virtually get away with anything....so much for democracy...
Capitalism is restrained by democracy on our behalf.
The alternative? One is Putin. Another is China. And Trump as well. And I can't see Trump not being re-elected. That's a horrible prospect, but it's looking unavoidable.
Archery1969
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greenmark wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:04 pm
Taff15 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:00 pm
Trump will now bounce this around the courts again until he gets elected, then get it thrown out completed, by Presidential instructions.

Sort of backs up the thoughts that if you have enough money you can virtually get away with anything....so much for democracy...
Capitalism is restrained by democracy on our behalf.
The alternative? One is Putin. Another is China. And Trump as well. And I can't see Trump not being re-elected. That's a horrible prospect, but it's looking unavoidable.
A nutter in the US and a nutter in France with the UK stuck between them…. 😱
greenmark
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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:36 pm
greenmark wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:04 pm
Taff15 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:00 pm
Trump will now bounce this around the courts again until he gets elected, then get it thrown out completed, by Presidential instructions.

Sort of backs up the thoughts that if you have enough money you can virtually get away with anything....so much for democracy...
Capitalism is restrained by democracy on our behalf.
The alternative? One is Putin. Another is China. And Trump as well. And I can't see Trump not being re-elected. That's a horrible prospect, but it's looking unavoidable.
A nutter in the US and a nutter in France with the UK stuck between them…. 😱
:lol: And I really did lol when I read that. But my view is keep on railing at things you don't approve of.
That's railing as in "to object", not a metal structure with spikey bits.
But I do think the French are just messing with their politicians. Give it a democratic term and they will spit Le Pen out. I might even seek out some odds on that. Vive la révolution!
Archery1969
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greenmark wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:01 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:36 pm
greenmark wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:04 pm

Capitalism is restrained by democracy on our behalf.
The alternative? One is Putin. Another is China. And Trump as well. And I can't see Trump not being re-elected. That's a horrible prospect, but it's looking unavoidable.
A nutter in the US and a nutter in France with the UK stuck between them…. 😱
:lol: And I really did lol when I read that. But my view is keep on railing at things you don't approve of.
That's railing as in "to object", not a metal structure with spikey bits.
But I do think the French are just messing with their politicians. Give it a democratic term and they will spit Le Pen out. I might even seek out some odds on that. Vive la révolution!
:D
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Derek27
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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:32 pm
Supreme Court rules that Trump is partially immune from prosecution.

He is immune from prosecution for official acts while president but not unofficial ones. It would be upto a lower court to rule on what’s classed as official or unofficial but any decisions by the lower court can be referred back to the Supreme Court as and when.
Is having sex with a porn star an official act? :lol:

I don't think there's anything official about the attempted couple or asking officials to "find" 10,000 votes. Prosecutors will go through his indictment line by line and charge him for whatever they can. They'll either get the bastard eventually or hound him for the rest of his life. :D
Archery1969
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 1:22 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:32 pm
Supreme Court rules that Trump is partially immune from prosecution.

He is immune from prosecution for official acts while president but not unofficial ones. It would be upto a lower court to rule on what’s classed as official or unofficial but any decisions by the lower court can be referred back to the Supreme Court as and when.
Is having sex with a porn star an official act? :lol:

I don't think there's anything official about the attempted couple or asking officials to "find" 10,000 votes. Prosecutors will go through his indictment line by line and charge him for whatever they can. They'll either get the bastard eventually or hound him for the rest of his life. :D
I could be wrong but I think the Supreme Court ruled on the first 2 saying he was immune from prosecution. They voted 6-3 in his favour. One of the judges who did not agree basically said “So, we are saying that a president could order Navy Seals to kill his opponents and as an official act would be immune from prosecution”. She said their ruling was extremely dangerous.

The three liberal justices on the Supreme Court strongly dissented from the decision. Justice Sonia Sotomayor said: "The President is now a king above the law."

Fun times… 😱
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Derek27
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I think a civil war could be on the cards. It may be up to the military to round up the nutcase judges and restore some order.
Archery1969
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:38 am
I think a civil war could be on the cards. It may be up to the military to round up the nutcase judges and restore some order.
Or Trump as in commander in chief when elected could round up all the democrats and have them shot. According to the Supreme Court that would be an official act as president and he be immune from prosecution…. 🤠
greenmark
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 1:26 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:38 am
I think a civil war could be on the cards. It may be up to the military to round up the nutcase judges and restore some order.
Or Trump as in commander in chief when elected could round up all the democrats and have them shot. According to the Supreme Court that would be an official act as president and he be immune from prosecution…. 🤠
This could be a new strategy for modern politics. Shoot the opposition......oh hang on we've been there and got the t-shirt. Good old fashioned fuedalism. Which Cromwell dedicated his life to destroying in favour of parliamentarianism. I know people that believe democracy is doomed because it allows people like Trump and Hitler to gain control then obliterate the democratic processes that allowed them to take power.
It's an ongoing battle.
Archery1969
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greenmark wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:04 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 1:26 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:38 am
I think a civil war could be on the cards. It may be up to the military to round up the nutcase judges and restore some order.
Or Trump as in commander in chief when elected could round up all the democrats and have them shot. According to the Supreme Court that would be an official act as president and he be immune from prosecution…. 🤠
This could be a new strategy for modern politics. Shoot the opposition......oh hang on we've been there and got the t-shirt. Good old fashioned fuedalism. Which Cromwell dedicated his life to destroying in favour of parliamentarianism. I know people that believe democracy is doomed because it allows people like Trump and Hitler to gain control then obliterate the democratic processes that allowed them to take power.
It's an ongoing battle.
I was joking Greenmark. 🤣 Although with Trump and these Supreme Court Justices, anything is possible if he gets back in. Someone, somewhere needs to throw they hat in the ring and quickly otherwise 2025 could be a very strange year for the world. 🤔
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Derek27
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 1:26 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:38 am
I think a civil war could be on the cards. It may be up to the military to round up the nutcase judges and restore some order.
Or Trump as in commander in chief when elected could round up all the democrats and have them shot. According to the Supreme Court that would be an official act as president and he be immune from prosecution…. 🤠
It's up to Biden to sign an official executive order to have those six justices lined against the wall, ASAP. :)
Archery1969
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:24 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 1:26 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:38 am
I think a civil war could be on the cards. It may be up to the military to round up the nutcase judges and restore some order.
Or Trump as in commander in chief when elected could round up all the democrats and have them shot. According to the Supreme Court that would be an official act as president and he be immune from prosecution…. 🤠
It's up to Biden to sign an official executive order to have those six justices lined against the wall, ASAP. :)
I think if someone executed Supreme Court Justices then that would cause the civil war you mentioned. 🤠 O wait wasn’t there a film with Denzil Washington and Julie Robots where Supreme Court Justices were murdered ? 🤔

Yes, the Pelican Brief 🤠
greenmark
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:17 pm
greenmark wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:04 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 1:26 pm


Or Trump as in commander in chief when elected could round up all the democrats and have them shot. According to the Supreme Court that would be an official act as president and he be immune from prosecution…. 🤠
This could be a new strategy for modern politics. Shoot the opposition......oh hang on we've been there and got the t-shirt. Good old fashioned fuedalism. Which Cromwell dedicated his life to destroying in favour of parliamentarianism. I know people that believe democracy is doomed because it allows people like Trump and Hitler to gain control then obliterate the democratic processes that allowed them to take power.
It's an ongoing battle.
I was joking Greenmark. 🤣 Although with Trump and these Supreme Court Justices, anything is possible if he gets back in. Someone, somewhere needs to throw they hat in the ring and quickly otherwise 2025 could be a very strange year for the world. 🤔
I knew you were joking. I just decided to exploit the idea to counteract (in a very small way) the lunacy of the current populist mentality that you can say what the hell you like. Even when they are called out on their lies they still say the facts are fake news.
Strange and disturbing times.
But odds wise. Trump is going to win. I would be staggered if he doesn't.
Archery1969
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greenmark wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 5:29 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:17 pm
greenmark wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:04 pm

This could be a new strategy for modern politics. Shoot the opposition......oh hang on we've been there and got the t-shirt. Good old fashioned fuedalism. Which Cromwell dedicated his life to destroying in favour of parliamentarianism. I know people that believe democracy is doomed because it allows people like Trump and Hitler to gain control then obliterate the democratic processes that allowed them to take power.
It's an ongoing battle.
I was joking Greenmark. 🤣 Although with Trump and these Supreme Court Justices, anything is possible if he gets back in. Someone, somewhere needs to throw they hat in the ring and quickly otherwise 2025 could be a very strange year for the world. 🤔
I knew you were joking. I just decided to exploit the idea to counteract (in a very small way) the lunacy of the current populist mentality that you can say what the hell you like. Even when they are called out on their lies they still say the facts are fake news.
Strange and disturbing times.
But odds wise. Trump is going to win. I would be staggered if he doesn't.
I’m wondering if Obama doesn’t jump in the ring. He wasn’t great on foreign policy but more steady on his feet and can put sentences together. No offence to Joe.
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