Mike Cruickshank's "Momentum system"

[jimibt]

Talking of first posts, couldn't help noticing due to the close proximity that Derek is only 868 posts behind PW

DON'T encourage him!!

[Euler]

I'd prefer to be a smaller % of posts. The forum is all about you guys really.

[Kai]

Talking of first posts, couldn't help noticing due to the close proximity that Derek is only 868 posts behind PW

DON'T encourage him!!

Ye, for better or worse Derek's the type of guy that like the sound of his own keyboard

Euler might be the original forum seeder but Derek's been seeding quite a bit as well, albeit with continually seedy posts

[jamesedwards]

Talking of first posts, couldn't help noticing due to the close proximity that Derek is only 868 posts behind PW

DON'T encourage him!!

Ye, for better or worse Derek's the type of guy that like the sound of his own keyboard

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/huaBpvytPAk

[Kai]

DON'T encourage him!!

Ye, for better or worse Derek's the type of guy that like the sound of his own keyboard

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/huaBpvytPAk

Wasn't aware that was a thing

We should send those to Derek then when he surpasses Peter

[thepressure]

Found this thread with this strat mentioned: Covers and Cunders.

https://other software.com/strategies/cover-and-cunders

How on earth are you meant to make money on this, backing most of the score lines for under 2.5 goals and then backing over 2.5 goals. I cant work it out?

[Euler]

Maybe copy and paste the system as we auto filter URL's to stop people from spamming or trying to spam to get backlinks.

[Kai]

How on earth are you meant to make money on this

Maybe you're not

[jamesedwards]

From memory this is the one where you back >2.5 goals and then back four options from 0-0, 1-0, 0-1, 1-1, 2-0 and 0-2 in correct score. As long as one of the scores you don't back doesn't come up then you win a little bit. But of course it will lose in the long run by the cost of the spread and commission.

[Kai]

From memory this is the one where you back >2.5 goals and then back four options from 0-0, 1-0, 0-1, 1-1, 2-0 and 0-2 in correct score. As long as one of the scores you don't back doesn't come up then you win a little bit. But of course it will lose in the long run by the cost of the spread and commission.

It's this one according to a basic search of "covers and cunders", they've put some generic stuff like that on the website

[ODPaul82]

It's from the old Trading Football website run by ads & bingo which is where I first met Kai millenia ago.
I have all of their original strategies plus all of the original videos.
ads still maintains the site but mostly does a 0-0/0-2/2-0 & unders strategy
bingo moved to Ireland and went into womens clothing or something like that.

This is the text from the document, Mike ripped it from the site and uploaded all of the stragies in a document.

Description: The classic 2 market strategy. CoverS : BACK OVER 2.5 goals +
BACK 3 or perhaps 4 of the following: 0-0/0-1/1-0/0-2/2-0/1-1
CunderS: BACK UNDER 2.5 goals + BACK 3 or perhaps 4 of the following 1-2/2-1/2-2/3-1/3-0/AUQ
Selection criteria: Odds on either Over on Under should not be less than 1.90
Staking: Decide what your prematch preference is regarding the result.
Weight your stakes accordingly
Example: BACK Unders @2.0 £100;
BACK CS high scores for a combined (dutched) total of £70 In this case you are favouring Under 2.5 as the most likely result

[weemac]

I've spent countless hours trying to devise similar strategies, but got nowhere in the end. They all seem to derive from the fear of losing, which isn't the optimal way to go about things.

[jimibt]

I've spent countless hours trying to devise similar strategies, but got nowhere in the end. They all seem to derive from the fear of losing, which isn't the optimal way to go about things.

agreed.. back in the day, i was the *king* of insurance!! the only thing it ever assured (in addition to time wasted) was break even or less.

a lot to be said for KISS...!!

[thepressure]

Would Burnley Blackburn kicking off at 1230 look good for this, back the correct scores at around 2, and then the o2.5 is around that, so drip in.....

[Kai]

back the correct scores at around 2

When starting it's not a bad idea in general to wait for prices to reach evens before deciding whether you think something is more likely to happen or not, and going from there.

But the more of these illiquid markets you add to the mix the more chance you have of getting matched at stale prices.

So timing your entries can matter too, which is where ladder/software comes in handy, you don't want to see an 8 tick deficit 3 seconds after you get matched, when you can squeeze a few extra minutes if you time your entry a bit better.