UK General Election July 4th 2024 - Trading ONLY thread

[jamesedwards]

I wasn't suggesting Labour will do much for homeless people. But homeless people (which includes people in hotels as it's not a home) depending on benefits, which the Tories will squeeze. They are far less likely to vote Tory, but fortunately their fowl tactics hasn't made a difference.

People without a fixed address have always needed to register separately to vote. They would just need to apply for the Voter Authority Certificate at the same time if they have no ID. I doubt it will have made any difference.

Well it's done now. Homeless people or those without the correct ID no longer count - literally in democratic terms.

Only if they don't have any photo ID and also can't be arsed to register for a Voter Authority Certificate.

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People without a fixed address have always needed to register separately to vote. They would just need to apply for the Voter Authority Certificate at the same time if they have no ID. I doubt it will have made any difference.

Well it's done now. Homeless people or those without the correct ID no longer count - literally in democratic terms.

Only if they can't be arsed to register for a Voter Authority Certificate.

How does a homeless person have the ability or drive to go through that process? They don't, so cancel their democratic right?

[jamesedwards]

Well it's done now. Homeless people or those without the correct ID no longer count - literally in democratic terms.

Only if they can't be arsed to register for a Voter Authority Certificate.

How does a homeless person have the ability or drive to go through that process? They don't, so cancel their democratic right?

You obviously feel very strongly about this. I suggest you write to your (new?) MP about it.

[Archery1969]

Well it's done now. Homeless people or those without the correct ID no longer count - literally in democratic terms.

Only if they can't be arsed to register for a Voter Authority Certificate.

How does a homeless person have the ability or drive to go through that process? They don't, so cancel their democratic right?

It obviously depends on the individual.

Back in the UK I have 3 friends I served with in Afghanistan on 4 tours over 2 years. They are, too my knowledge, still homeless after turning down accommodation in 2 different counties. All suffering for a form of PTSD, drug and alcohol problems. You could offer them a brand new home, job and ongoing support but all 3 prefer to be outside of 4 walls. I, doctors and social workers tried and couldn’t help them. I not saying they beyond help but it’s a challenge.

Of course they still should have a right to vote but forget about the ID part, they don’t have a UK address, so what do you do for them, honest question ?

[jamesedwards]

Only if they can't be arsed to register for a Voter Authority Certificate.

How does a homeless person have the ability or drive to go through that process? They don't, so cancel their democratic right?

It obviously depends on the individual.

Back in the UK I have 3 friends I served with in Afghanistan on 4 tours over 2 years. They are, too my knowledge, still homeless after turning down accommodation in 2 different counties. All suffering for a form of PTSD, drug and alcohol problems. You could offer them a brand new home, job and ongoing support but all 3 prefer to be outside of 4 walls. I, doctors and social workers tried and couldn’t help them. I not saying they beyond help but it’s a challenge.

Of course they still should have a right to vote but forget about the ID part, they don’t have a UK address, so what do you do for them, honest question ?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... -C_acc.pdf

[The Silk Run]

President Xi looking forward to the results of the UK General Election

[Derek27]

What’s your definition of homelessness Derek. People living on the streets or living in a hotel or sheltered accommodation. I realise they are combined in statistics but for me there is a difference, one has a roof and the other does not etc.

Did Labour when last in power fix the homeless problem in England, did Labour fix the homeless problem in Wales and did the SNP fix the homeless problem in Scotland ? Not arguing, just a question ?

I seem to remember someone selling £340 Billion gold reserves, promised to pay it back, didn’t and yet still didn’t fix homelessness. Makes you wonder, all liars or just prioritise until the next election.

I wasn't suggesting Labour will do much for homeless people. But homeless people (which includes people in hotels as it's not a home) depending on benefits, which the Tories will squeeze. They are far less likely to vote Tory, but fortunately their fowl tactics hasn't made a difference.

People without a fixed address have always needed to register separately to vote. They would just need to apply for the Voter Authority Certificate at the same time if they have no ID. I doubt it will have made any difference.

As you know, we're in a cost of living crisis, there are people who can't afford beans on toast for their kids. If you have to pay (for a photograph) to vote, this is not a democracy.

[Derek27]

How does a homeless person have the ability or drive to go through that process? They don't, so cancel their democratic right?

It obviously depends on the individual.

Back in the UK I have 3 friends I served with in Afghanistan on 4 tours over 2 years. They are, too my knowledge, still homeless after turning down accommodation in 2 different counties. All suffering for a form of PTSD, drug and alcohol problems. You could offer them a brand new home, job and ongoing support but all 3 prefer to be outside of 4 walls. I, doctors and social workers tried and couldn’t help them. I not saying they beyond help but it’s a challenge.

Of course they still should have a right to vote but forget about the ID part, they don’t have a UK address, so what do you do for them, honest question ?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... -C_acc.pdf

Brilliant! So they just need to get their laptop out and do a search.

[Archery1969]

President Xi looking forward to the results of the UK General Election

I'm sure Putin and Trump is too.

[Derek27]

The words "it's only an exit poll" are already being thrown about.

[Archery1969]

I'm voting for Trump. O shit, wrong thread, forum and country. But I wont be voting for Justin Trudeau, he like Rishi is toast.

[Derek27]

The Guardian has a clean map for results only, without projections. I like to see both maps.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng ... ve-in-full

[arbitrage16]

Been some great trading on these political markets, but then again that's not the reason for me feeling so incredibly chipper with what I'm seeing.

Adiós, you won't be missed!

[Derek27]

Steve Baker was asked if he was part of the worst government in history. The question really seemed to agitate him into lashing out over Labour's economy crash.

[jamesedwards]

It doesnt seem to me that Reform are getting the share gains they need to get the currently projected 13 seats.

Have laid 7+ seats for a bit at 1.3.