The Situation Room

[SpikeyBob]

Just remember peeps, rioting is dangerous. Don't do it.

https://x.com/MikeN0926/status/1818406002514895056

[jamesedwards]

Just remember peeps, rioting is dangerous. Don't do it.

https://x.com/MikeN0926/status/1818406002514895056

Brilliant.

[jimibt]

Just remember peeps, rioting is dangerous. Don't do it.

https://x.com/MikeN0926/status/1818406002514895056

shareworthy!!

[ForFolksSake]

Just remember peeps, rioting is dangerous. Don't do it.

https://x.com/MikeN0926/status/1818406002514895056

So is crossing the English Channel in a dinghy.
Who's policing that

[jimibt]

Just remember peeps, rioting is dangerous. Don't do it.

https://x.com/MikeN0926/status/1818406002514895056

So is crossing the English Channel in a dinghy.
Who's policing that

killjoy...

[greenmark]

Just remember peeps, rioting is dangerous. Don't do it.

https://x.com/MikeN0926/status/1818406002514895056

Waht's remarkable about that is one of his own filmed it and decided that sharing it was a good idea. Obviously the team braincell was somewhere else.

[Derek27]

They're a well organised fighting force, aren't they? One man stands in the line of fire while the rest load up.

[Archery1969]

Now it’s all kicking off in London, so far, over 100 arrested.

[Derek27]

When rioters through bricks/stones, they should send in armed police or soldiers, camera on each gun barrel, and just shoot them. Stones can kill and break bones. Live bullet defence is perfectly justifiable.

[Archery1969]

When rioters through bricks/stones, they should send in armed police or soldiers, camera on each gun barrel, and just shoot them. Stones can kill and break bones. Live bullet defence is perfectly justifiable.

The most you could wish for would be the Police using rubber bullets.

Some at the time of the 2011 riots asked why Soldiers were not sent in but its not easy to do:

Civilian Policing: The UK has a long tradition of civilian policing, and the primary responsibility for maintaining public order lies with the police. The government generally prefers to use the police rather than the military for domestic law enforcement to uphold the principle of civilian control over the armed forces.

Legal Constraints: The use of the military for domestic purposes in the UK is governed by the Civil Contingencies Act 2004 and the Military Aid to the Civil Authorities (MACA) protocol. Deploying the military on the streets of the UK for law enforcement purposes is a significant step that requires careful consideration of legal and constitutional implications.

Escalation Concerns: There were concerns that deploying the army could escalate the situation and potentially lead to further violence. The presence of armed soldiers in a civilian law enforcement context could have inflamed tensions and worsened the situation.

Logistical Challenges: Mobilizing the army for domestic law enforcement requires significant logistical planning and coordination. The police were already heavily involved in responding to the riots, and integrating the military into the operation would have presented practical challenges.

Public Perception: There may have been concerns about the public perception of using the military to quell civil unrest. Deploying the army in a domestic law enforcement role could be seen as a disproportionate response and may have raised questions about the militarization of policing.
Overall, the decision not to mobilize the army during the 2011.

[sionascaig]

Even if arrested, where do you put them given jails and police holding cells are full. It could also take years to get them to court & presumably they will be on the loose until then.

Hold on... Can't we use some of that money wasted on Rwanda? Lots of holding accommodation there & I'm sure the Rwanda police will be able to address any human rights issues they have.

[sionascaig]

The most you could wish for would be the Police using rubber bullets.

Unless you class them as terrorists !

Can't see the public not supporting that...

[Archery1969]

Even if arrested, where do you put them given jails and police holding cells are full. It could also take years to get them to court & presumably they will be on the loose until then.

Hold on... Can't we use some of that money wasted on Rwanda? Lots of holding accommodation there & I'm sure the Rwanda police will be able to address any human rights issues they have.

Just release all those in Prison for non violent crimes. Mr Timpson, Labour's new advisor on the criminal justice system said that 50% shouldn't be in prison in the first place. He employs allot of ex offenders in his shops.

But I guess that would send a very bad signal to offenders like fraudsters, in most cases non violent but often steal millions from individuals. I would give them the option of working with and helping the Police on stopping others before locking them up. Just a thought.

[Derek27]

The most you could wish for would be the Police using rubber bullets.

Unless you class them as terrorists !

Can't see the public not supporting that...

Funny you should mention that. The home office is already looking into whether or not the EDL is a terrorist organisation.

[Archery1969]

The most you could wish for would be the Police using rubber bullets.

Unless you class them as terrorists !

Can't see the public not supporting that...

I could be wrong but I dont think it would be a very good look for a new Labour Government if they gave the order for live rounds to be used on mainland Britain. Can you imagine the number of human rights lawyers just waiting to sue the Government. To my knowledge live rounds have only ever been used in Northern Ireland. Although I think back in early 1900s 300 house hold cavalry with swords did charge and cut down people at a protest somewhere in the UK. Can't remember the details.