The Situation Room

[jamesedwards]

PM news conference about the Southport attack and disorder spreading in our cities, and the BBC ask him a question about Huw Edwards.

[Archery1969]

He's 17. Legally still a chld. If one fact in this episode stunned me it was his age.
What possible ratioanale could he have developed to conclude what he did wasn't anything but the most dreadful of crimes?
Time will tell on this. I don't think it's as plan and simple as bad person. It's way more complex and I hope the authorities ge to the bottom of it.
Running around like headless chickens trashing stuff in a fit of deflected anger is plain daft.

I wouldn’t class 17 as a child, he’ll, aren’t Labour going to change voting laws to 16 ?

However, having watched my nephews play Call of Duty and listening to their thinking I was somewhat worried. Kind of glad they don’t have access to real weapons.

Those games are rated +15 and +18 but how many over +10 are being allowed to play them by parents ?

PS. I joined the Army in late 1980s, shorncliff barracks. End of week one, Knife training, in, twist, out. What’s the reason for that Sgt ? Blood won’t coagulate, minimal chance of person surving medical treatment. Is that the right think to be teaching a 17 year old ?

You were 17? You were being trained? Who was training the Southport !7 yeard old to do what he did. I would suggest nobody. It's a tragic anomoly that needs calm analysis not lobbing bricks at coppers or mosques.
I really need to stay away from this thread now. If I pop up again tell me to go away.

Probably nobody training him apart from probably playing online games or watching YT videos. Everything I was taught is now freely online including make bombs from stuff in most household kitchens. Times have changed, the Police, Governments and Parents also need to change and adapt.

I think I am correct in saying that the majority of people (public) who carry out mass killings have one or more common attributes.

- Loners who find it difficult to interact with others in person.
- Diagnosed or undiagnosed mental health problems.
- Constantly being bullied at school and/or home.
- Unable to distinguish between right, wrong, game, film and real life.
- Drink and/or drug problems.
- Breakdown in personal or family life.
- No job or relationship prospects.
- Finally, for whatever reason, just evil.

For me, all the above comes down to social care. Most associate that term with the elderly. But social care should be offered to whoever needs it, including parents who ask for it for their children.

But the cost would be too great and therefore never happen.

I remember back in the early 1980s, going to my Youth Club, had some issues at school, people running that club helped me allot as I could have easily ended up at HMP somewhere. No idea if they were trained professionals but I guess it was someone to talk too etc.

[Archery1969]

So, it sounds like the Crown Prosecution Service didn't want him named.

When arguing that the judge should impose reporting restrictions preventing Rudakubana's identification, the prosecution said the suspect had an “autism spectrum disorder diagnosis”, and that he had been “unwilling to leave the house and communicate with family for a period of time”.

Not saying ALL children with a autish spectrum disorder are likely to commit an offence but naming him and the diagnosis must be making every parent rather nervous if their child has the same diagnosis etc.

The BMA think around 700,000 individuals in the UK have the same medical definition. Obviously not all will go on to break the law but then again, what the hell do you do ?

[Hepburn]

So, it sounds like the Crown Prosecution Service didn't want him named.

When arguing that the judge should impose reporting restrictions preventing Rudakubana's identification, the prosecution said the suspect had an “autism spectrum disorder diagnosis”, and that he had been “unwilling to leave the house and communicate with family for a period of time”.

Not saying ALL children with a autish spectrum disorder are likely to commit an offence but naming him and the diagnosis must be making every parent rather nervous if their child has the same diagnosis etc.

The BMA think around 700,000 individuals in the UK have the same medical definition. Obviously not all will go on to break the law but then again, what the hell do you do ?

Sorry what do you mean?
Autism has got absolutely NOTHING to do with being a murderer.

[Archery1969]

So, it sounds like the Crown Prosecution Service didn't want him named.

When arguing that the judge should impose reporting restrictions preventing Rudakubana's identification, the prosecution said the suspect had an “autism spectrum disorder diagnosis”, and that he had been “unwilling to leave the house and communicate with family for a period of time”.

Not saying ALL children with a autish spectrum disorder are likely to commit an offence but naming him and the diagnosis must be making every parent rather nervous if their child has the same diagnosis etc.

The BMA think around 700,000 individuals in the UK have the same medical definition. Obviously not all will go on to break the law but then again, what the hell do you do ?

Sorry what do you mean?
Autism has got absolutely NOTHING to do with being a murderer.

Never said it did, did I ?

[Derek27]

Just remember peeps, rioting is dangerous. Don't do it.

https://x.com/MikeN0926/status/1818406002514895056

I watched the vid again.

I was wondering, initially, why he held the back of his head when he was hit in the chest, but I now see he got struck twice at the same time from different directions; left chest and back of the head, before getting a brick in the groin.

What a clever idea to stand in the line of fire taunting the police.

[Archery1969]

There kicking off in Sunderland now....

[Derek27]

There kicking off in Sunderland now....

Who are they playing?

[Archery1969]

There kicking off in Sunderland now....

Who are they playing?

Trying to burn down a mosque…

[Derek27]

A Muslin has just said if protestors turn up to their Mosque, they'll be offering them, drinks, burgers and chips!!!

[Derek27]

I thought Americans were lunatics but it looks like our lot would give them a good run for their money!

[Archery1969]

I thought Americans were lunatics but it looks like our lot would give them a good run for their money!

At least ours dont have assault rifles....

[Archery1969]

Reports of a Police station on fire..........

[ForFolksSake]

Reports of a Police station on fire..........

People everywhere are daily made angrier....

https://www.gbnews.com/opinion/neil-oli ... -humanists

[Derek27]

They really need to use live rounds, grenades if necessary, just wipe out these idiots.

What's Starmer's response? Face-recognition cameras to stop offenders travelling? Too late after they've set buildings on fire and caused £Ms worth of damage.