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greenmark
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jimibt wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:50 pm
greenmark wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:33 pm
Glad we both made it out. I fear for some of the rioters. Much as I despise their antics, it's not going to help them. TR is sitting in Cyprus chuckling. How such a repellent individual can garner support from across the world sticks in my craw.
Look at the energy expended over the last week. How much good could that have done?
i've kinda lived a charmed life, but do look at the lives some of my cousins/extended family have had to endure and do wonder how and where opportunity begins and ends. it certainly is more than skin deep.
My mother was and my sister is big on how opportunity is unequal. And I really do feel for those that are struggling now. But lashing out is futile and making race relations far worse. Sad times.
Archery1969
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greenmark wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:45 pm
jimibt wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:50 pm
greenmark wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:33 pm
Glad we both made it out. I fear for some of the rioters. Much as I despise their antics, it's not going to help them. TR is sitting in Cyprus chuckling. How such a repellent individual can garner support from across the world sticks in my craw.
Look at the energy expended over the last week. How much good could that have done?
i've kinda lived a charmed life, but do look at the lives some of my cousins/extended family have had to endure and do wonder how and where opportunity begins and ends. it certainly is more than skin deep.
My mother was and my sister is big on how opportunity is unequal. And I really do feel for those that are struggling now. But lashing out is futile and making race relations far worse. Sad times.
I think the point is “They don’t want race relations of any kind”
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sionascaig wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:36 pm
Interesting bit on news from a barrister that defended some "rioters" in London last time there was trouble.

Charges / Penalties this time round (if found guilty) include:

1. Organising - possible charge of terrorism - life sentence
2. Rioting - up 10 years
3. Violent misconduct - up to 5 years

His big take away was how the last set he defended had a tendency to "burst into tears" and "ask for Mummy" when found guilty. They had no clue about how serious the courts would treat their crimes..

The good news is that it should be pretty straightforward court cases as the morons tend to document all their actions very well... The bad news is that it will cost the tax payers a bucketload to lock them up...
I was listening to a barrister also who said if you look at the words the politicians are using they never use the word riot and doubted anyone will get charged with rioting, if they do then the Government have to pay for all the damage as insurers can claim the money back under The Riot Compensation Act 2016 (‘the Act’)
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Michael5482 wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:31 pm
greenmark wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 4:43 pm
ForFolksSake wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 4:30 pm


Two-tier Keir: can't you see what is happening to our country

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an0Ww0Dujm8
Beginning to think you are devil's advocate for the left.
!, He's talking boolx
2. He's touting subs
3. You still haven't addressed the fact that Labour has been in power for weeks, not decades.
4. You don't seem to care at all about the terror the violence you refuse to condemn is causing.
5. How did you become such a 24 carat knobhead. What bad stuff happened in your life to make you so angry at EVERYTHING!

I was born in a two up two down with no bathroom. Outside loo. Bathed in the sink or tin bath. I know poverty. Get a flipping grip!!!!
No one gives a toss how long Labour have been in charge it's the same auld shite "Vote For Change" 2 weeks later they vote to keep 2 child benefit and sacks those who rebelled, then launched an attack on pensioners with the winter fuel benefit they literally alienated more people than voted for them and by some distance.

When it suits them they can all of a sudden prosecute people in days, have prosecutors working round the clock (and rightly so) so why can't they do this the 1st day they came into power with normal crime and send a clear message out? Only a week ago the prisons were bursting now all of a sudden we have room? Then he's alienated millions by labelling them far right thugs and muslims run riot.

We now have politicians threatening the public with jail for not even being there and some idiot from the public prosecutions telling people that some issues may now be terrorism without providing one single example. There's demos all over, PSNI have identified paramilitary involvement ramping up in Belfast people are laughing at Starmer you can see his demeanour getting angrier and angrier, Musk is rinsing him in form of 193 million people world wide, Starmer's a flipping clown.

This is all playing out on social media not in the narrative they peddle in the media and the Government can't do one iota about it.

First we need to get a grip on illegal immigration like it or lump it the majority want it and they need to go. Then we need proportional representation we have a Government that's mandated by around 33.7% of the electorate the other 66.3% are ignored. The system no longer works for the majority.
And ID cards which Labour have rejected because in this 'digital' age they think their plan to 'smash' the 'illegal' immigrant gangs is better.
Archery1969
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So they found 500 prison places. But 420 have been arrested and charged, I think.

Potentially, tomorrow and the coming weekend, 1000s could be arrested and charged.

Where they going to put them once convicted ?

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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:28 pm
So they found 500 prison places. But 420 have been arrested and charged, I think.

Potentially, tomorrow and the coming weekend, 1000s could be arrested and charged.

Where they going to put them once convicted ?

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care in the community?? :mrgreen: :ugeek:
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jimibt
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archery, getting back to one of the skynews posts that you pinged, i saw the thing about TR being sacked by his accountant. Whilst that screenshot was interesting in that context, I felt that the little snippet of the previous message was far more intriguing:

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greenmark
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jimibt wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:31 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:28 pm
So they found 500 prison places. But 420 have been arrested and charged, I think.

Potentially, tomorrow and the coming weekend, 1000s could be arrested and charged.

Where they going to put them once convicted ?

🤔
care in the community?? :mrgreen: :ugeek:
Colchester corrective training centre?
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jimibt
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greenmark wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:44 pm
jimibt wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:31 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:28 pm
So they found 500 prison places. But 420 have been arrested and charged, I think.

Potentially, tomorrow and the coming weekend, 1000s could be arrested and charged.

Where they going to put them once convicted ?

🤔
care in the community?? :mrgreen: :ugeek:
Colchester corrective training centre?
speak to archery on that one!!
Michael5482
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:28 pm
So they found 500 prison places. But 420 have been arrested and charged, I think.

Potentially, tomorrow and the coming weekend, 1000s could be arrested and charged.

Where they going to put them once convicted ?

🤔
Someone got 2 months today that will teach them :lol: They'll release people earlier to make room and they'll be outrage when peodo's or people convicted of knife crime etc get let out to make room for someone pushing a wheelie bin over (they have remanded a women in Sundelrand for pushing a wheelie bin at police at about 3mph :lol: ) all the while the boats will keep coming over the summer.

It's OK threatening everyone with jail but the reality may be different. The solicitors that get all these lefty's off will be queuing up they don't care its money for them while the public prosecutors will be targeted. I'd expect to see a lot who are remanded let out at trial when they plead guilty with big fines on tag then they'll be outrage as they promised the full force of the law.
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Michael5482 wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:55 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:28 pm
So they found 500 prison places. But 420 have been arrested and charged, I think.

Potentially, tomorrow and the coming weekend, 1000s could be arrested and charged.

Where they going to put them once convicted ?

🤔
Someone got 2 months today that will teach them :lol: They'll release people earlier to make room and they'll be outrage when peodo's or people convicted of knife crime etc get let out to make room for someone pushing a wheelie bin over (they have remanded a women in Sundelrand for pushing a wheelie bin at police at about 3mph :lol: ) all the while the boats will keep coming over the summer.

It's OK threatening everyone with jail but the reality may be different. The solicitors that get all these lefty's off will be queuing up they don't care its money for them while the public prosecutors will be targeted. I'd expect to see a lot who are remanded let out at trial when they plead guilty with big fines on tag then they'll be outrage as they promised the full force of the law.
stop that sexy chat -i spy a tree in need of!!
Archery1969
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greenmark wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:44 pm
jimibt wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:31 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:28 pm
So they found 500 prison places. But 420 have been arrested and charged, I think.

Potentially, tomorrow and the coming weekend, 1000s could be arrested and charged.

Where they going to put them once convicted ?

🤔
care in the community?? :mrgreen: :ugeek:
Colchester corrective training centre?
Yes, as Jim alluded too, I have some experience of Colchester and one of there hotel rooms. 😂

It’s not very nice.

- 5.00am, rain, snow, hot, square bashing for 60 minutes.
- 6.00am, shower.
- 6.45am, breakfast, many wouldn’t call it food.
- 7.30am, square bashing.
- 8.30am, 3 mile run.
- 1.00pm, lunch, many wouldn’t call it food.
- 1.45pm, armed forces laws.
- 3.00pm, square bashing.
- 4.00pm, 1 mile run.
- 5.30pm, shower.
- 6.00pm, dinner, many wouldn’t call it food.
- 7.00pm, ironing, clean your accommodation, spotless.
- 9.00pm, TV, reading.
- 10.00pm, lights out.

Repeat the above every day of your sentence upto 2 years. If sentence is more than 6 months then normally discharged from the armed forces and any remainder of the original sentence served in HMP somewhere which has a spare cell.

So, my advice, don’t be naughty in the armed forces.

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greenmark
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I think the general populace are getting fed up now. I think they wouldn't complain if the guilty were shoved in a warehouse and had food and drink posted trhough a hole at approrpriate times. Let 'em commune and gel with each other for a few weeks and they'll be begging to be released.
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greenmark wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 8:28 pm
I think the general populace are getting fed up now. I think they wouldn't complain if the guilty were shoved in a warehouse and had food and drink posted trhough a hole at approrpriate times. Let 'em commune and gel with each other for a few weeks and they'll be begging to be released.
2-Tier-Starmer has got the whole country walking a tight-rope.

He's needs to come to the table like everyone is suggesting before it get's completely out of control
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greenmark wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 8:28 pm
I think the general populace are getting fed up now. I think they wouldn't complain if the guilty were shoved in a warehouse and had food and drink posted trhough a hole at approrpriate times. Let 'em commune and gel with each other for a few weeks and they'll be begging to be released.
2-Tier-Starmer has got the whole country walking a tight-rope.

He's needs to come to the table like everyone is suggesting before it get's completely out of control
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