The Situation Room

[ForFolksSake]

You only ever serve around half your sentence unless a Judge gives a minimum term.

If it’s less than 3 years then most are sent to open prisons after serving 1/3 of there sentences.

I’m actually surprised that some of these rioters are not getting much more severe sentences of at least 5 years.

I'll be surprised if some of them don't get mistakenly jailed, surely that can't happen can it

[Archery1969]

You only ever serve around half your sentence unless a Judge gives a minimum term.

If it’s less than 3 years then most are sent to open prisons after serving 1/3 of there sentences.

I’m actually surprised that some of these rioters are not getting much more severe sentences of at least 5 years.

I'll be surprised if some of them don't get mistakenly jailed, surely that can't happen can it

As far as I am aware, so far, there all pleading guilty, hence the speed of court cases and convictions. If one or more of them pleaded not guilty then cases would go on for months. But you run the risk doing that. Usually, pleading guilty means your sentence is 1/3 less. Unless you have committed murder or rape. That’s why so many of those plead not guilty as it’s not going to make much difference apart from wasting £££££ etc.

[ForFolksSake]

You only ever serve around half your sentence unless a Judge gives a minimum term.

If it’s less than 3 years then most are sent to open prisons after serving 1/3 of there sentences.

I’m actually surprised that some of these rioters are not getting much more severe sentences of at least 5 years.

I'll be surprised if some of them don't get mistakenly jailed, surely that can't happen can it

As far as I am aware, so far, there all pleading guilty, hence the speed of court cases and convictions. If one or more of them pleaded not guilty then cases would go on for months. But you run the risk doing that. Usually, pleading guilty means your sentence is 1/3 less. Unless you have committed murder or rape. That’s why so many of those plead not guilty as it’s not going to make much difference apart from wasting £££££ etc.

It wasn't me ..

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=sTMgX1PDGAE

[Derek27]

You only ever serve around half your sentence unless a Judge gives a minimum term.

If it’s less than 3 years then most are sent to open prisons after serving 1/3 of there sentences.

I’m actually surprised that some of these rioters are not getting much more severe sentences of at least 5 years.

I'll be surprised if some of them don't get mistakenly jailed, surely that can't happen can it

When the police/CPS have 500 people to charge, they can afford to target the ones with overwhelming video evidence against them. So far, nobody has claimed the rioters in the footage was his twin brother.

[Derek27]

Far-right knobheads out tonight, but it looks like they're outnumbered again.

[Archery1969]

Far-right knobheads out tonight, but it looks like they're outnumbered again.

I guess the worry in Belfast is that the knobheads often have bombs and bullets.

[Emmson]

I was very worried about the country a few days ago and with that megalomaniac goading our PM and saying civil war is inveitable, the danger now seems to have passed. Though underlying issues of it will have to be addressed somehow or someway or it will happen again.

Relieved For Now

[greenmark]

I was very worried about the country a few days ago and with that megalomaniac goading our PM and saying civil war is inveitable, the danger now seems to have passed. Though underlying issues of it will have to be addressed somehow or someway or it will happen again.

Relieved For Now

Let's hope.
As I said the Labour Manifesto does address all of the concerns of the protesters. Not the concerns of the rioters but they're a bunch of (serial) violent thugs.
But I am crossing everything that Labour can begin to heal the country. What a challenge! But you shouldn't be in politics if you don't want a challenge.

[ForFolksSake]

Could Labour 'stop the boats' - best of luck with that one

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxe2y2eexm4o

[jimibt]

Could Labour 'stop the boats' - best of luck with that one

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxe2y2eexm4o

to ponder on a double question as you do most of the time.. could they, or couldn't they. are they morally obliged to oblige OR are they legally exempt from morally obliging??

difficult questions. anyway, to all you twats (myself included) have a great non riotous weekend, and don't go all keiser chief!

[ForFolksSake]

Could Labour 'stop the boats' - best of luck with that one

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxe2y2eexm4o

to ponder on a double question as you do most of the time.. could they, or couldn't they. are they morally obliged to oblige OR are they legally exempt from morally obliging??

difficult questions. anyway, to all you twats (myself included) have a great non riotous weekend, and don't go all keiser chief!

could they, or couldn't they. are they morally obliged to oblige OR are they legally exempt from morally obliging??

I see where you are coming from with that - you'll need a judge to sort that one out

difficult questions

The politicians are certainly making it difficult as they don't seem to be able to come up with any solutions or set any bars for the public to measure against.

Anyway "Keep yer heid on" Jimi

[Derek27]

Could Labour 'stop the boats' - best of luck with that one

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxe2y2eexm4o

No they couldn't, but at least they're not stupid enough to claim they can like the last government.

The Tories created the slogan stop the boats. It's now adopted by far-right thugs, and not one Conservative politician has called it out!

[Derek27]

A woman's been put away for 20 months for pushing a burning bin towards the police. She fell over as she pushed the bin, virtually into the hands of the police.

And she's probably lost her job for that, what a stupid woman!

[ForFolksSake]

Could Labour 'stop the boats' - best of luck with that one

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxe2y2eexm4o

No they couldn't, but at least they're not stupid enough to claim they can like the last government.

The Tories created the slogan stop the boats. It's now adopted by far-right thugs, and not one Conservative politician has called it out!

No they couldn't

I absolutely and totally agree with you for once.

But how do you know that ?

[Derek27]

Could Labour 'stop the boats' - best of luck with that one

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxe2y2eexm4o

No they couldn't, but at least they're not stupid enough to claim they can like the last government.

The Tories created the slogan stop the boats. It's now adopted by far-right thugs, and not one Conservative politician has called it out!

No they couldn't

I absolutely and totally agree with you for once.

But how do you know that ?

Sunak was asked for a definition of "stop the boats". He refused to give one, you haven't either, so I would take the literal meaning, that is, not a single migrant crosses the channel in a boat. I can't see a 30-foot-high wall being built on either side of the channel. Even if they called in the navy to blow them out of the water, a few would still get through.