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Dyche will survive. Who would take Everton on from here?

Wayne Rooney might be available when Plymouth sack him in the next few games....

You git! Damn near choked reading that. Breathing in a mouthful of wine is not a good idea. This forum can be health threatening sometimes.

[Dublin_Flyer]

My best prediction

[jamesedwards]

Worth bringing this one back for a start

Looking forward to this duel in particular

[greenmark]

No idea who Casemiro was attempting to pass to there. Baffling. But I don't really care, Man U 0 LFC 1.
One thing is clear United are becoming more like the United of Fergie's reign. A long way off fom that, but better than the rubbish we've seen from them since Fergie.

[Kai]

My best prediction

[Michael5482]

Ten Haag needed a good start to the season but Man U look devoid of everything including confidence. There getting absolutely spanked and don't even look match fit.

They'll be best off paying Casemiro off in the morning and letting him go for starters, an absolute carthorse at least Ten Haag done the right thing at half time.

[Kai]

Ten Haag needed a good start to the season but Man U look devoid of everything including confidence. There getting absolutely spanked and don't even look match fit.

They'll be best off paying Casemiro off in the morning and letting him go for starters, an absolute carthorse at least Ten Haag done the right thing at half time.

Yes but they've been getting rinsed in the transfer window just as much, have you seen all the transfer fees last night on Sky. Ajax and Real have roughly made 200mil off them alone and that's just for 3-4 players. Casemiro's won it all but he should be collecting his retirement wage somewhere in Saudi and not at United, there's 2 more years on his contract.

[Kai]

Still too much deadwood and too many happy pensioners on retirement plan contracts, all setting the manager up for failure.

Casemiro will catch most of the flak this time but like I said earlier after the same 3-0 prelude result in pre-season the squad seems full of pensioners and rejects from other big teams, ETH has assembled a team of overpaid misfiring misfits and nobody is surprised anymore, besides Gary Neville, who liked the idea of ETH throwing his staff under the bus for a contract extension and another crack at it. There is no fear factor any more on their teamsheet, Liverpool players were taking the piss after the third goal trying to showboat and walk the ball in (Szobbo), which I fully agree with Gary is disrespectful.

Everyone is biased one way or another but all anyone needs to do is look at United's price in every match, to objectively see where this is all going. They're a cup side now, like Liverpool was under Rafa etc, they will eventually sort it out but not under ETH imo.

But Liverpool aren't overly ambitious either, as shrewd as they've been with finances and identifying top targets there is a similar underlying lack of ambition, if anything United have shown more ambition with their spending. The fact Liverpool have made a profit this summer window speaks volumes, the priorities are always to maximize value instead of trying to win, and their best value play right now is to just let Slot coach/cook and develop the players. Their ideal scenario is to mould Ryan (Gravy Train) Gravenberch into a Rodri/Zubimendi level player, and Bajcetic into a defensive version of that to replace the experienced Endo.

[henbet22]

3 Clean sheets. Path to the title if any sort of points penalty heading city's way. All seemingly buying into it. Game on.

[jamesedwards]

Three games in here's my final placing prediction:

1 Man City*
2 Arsenal*
3 Newcastle*
4 Aston Villa*
5 Chelsea*
6 Brighton
7 Liverpool
8 Tottenham
9 Man Utd
10 Bournemouth
11 Brentford
12 West Ham
13 Crystal Palace
14 Fulham
15 Leicester*
16 Wolves
17 Notts F*
18 Everton*
19 Southampton
20 Ipswich

* (assuming no points deduction)

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Three games in here's my final placing prediction:

1 Man City*
2 Arsenal*
3 Newcastle*
4 Aston Villa*
5 Chelsea*
6 Brighton
7 Liverpool
8 Tottenham
9 Man Utd
10 Bournemouth
11 Brentford
12 West Ham
13 Crystal Palace
14 Fulham
15 Leicester*
16 Wolves
17 Notts F*
18 Everton*
19 Southampton
20 Ipswich

* (assuming no points deduction)

Gone early there chief.
I don't see Everton going down. They have enough quality to avoid the drop. But as long as the ownership issue drags on they're going to flirt with relegation. It's a dangerous game depending on the players contracts. EFC are a slam dunk investment opportunity. But as long as the current ownership are in place. They have no chance of anything other than muddling around in the bottom half.

I don't see Newcastle, Chelsea or Villa up that high. Spurs fans must be quaking a bit though. And Man U fans must be thinking "Oh no not again". 3 games in and ETH is making excuses and saying judge us at the end of the season. Sorry Erik, it doesn't work like that in the EPL.
I actually like him. But 6 of his signings were playing yesterday and they were destroyed. There is something really wrong at Utd and Chelsea. What Arteta has done at Arsenal shows how screwed up those other clubs are and seemingly unable to make their wealth work for them.

[weemac]

Someone needs to learn the rules about throw-ins.

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[Derek27]

Birmingham OU markets very weak.

[Kai]

MO markets have decent liquidity, some good opportunities actually in these EFL trophy matches

[Emmson]

Ivan Toney has had a break of fortune, one must be delighted for him. He can take care of himself and his family until the cows come home.