Excuses, Excuses, Excuses

[firlandsfarm]

Train drivers to receive £10,000 pa more, nurses are offered less than £2,000. Which do you think is more important?

[firlandsfarm]

Quite a few claiming to be ex-military living in tents in the town centre where I live. They have all been offered accommodation but have refused.

This is an example of what Braverman was referring to when she made her "lifestyle" comment but the media and Labour drowned her out!

[firlandsfarm]

Oh, I forgot to mention the most amusing part of catching up was reading some knock those who may emigrate to avoid the expected taxes. That was the funniest hypercritical joke I have ever heard. All those criticisms of the 1% who contribute 29% by those who are on this forum because they have or want an income stream that is tax free!! It beggars belief that those who do not pay their fair share should criticise those who have for wanting to protect themselves going forward!

"That was the funniest hypercritical joke I have ever heard."

I think you meant hypocritical. This isn't pedantry, the difference is important here.
hypercritical means excessively critical, hypocrisy is the expression of beliefs that one does not adhere to.

But all politicians milk their status. And the PM's salary (as BJ said) is chicken feed.
The PM is supported by the state and anyone that chooses to supply goods and services.

In that context having a billionaire that can fund themselves should work well.
Did Sunak work well?

Yes, quite right greenmark ... I did mean hypocritical. Thanks

But I can't see the relevance in the rest of your comment re mine (not saying I disagree). I wasn't looking at the politicians. I'm sorry to say I was looking at the tax avoiders here who criticise others for tax avoidance!! That meets your above definition of hypocrisy perfectly.

[firlandsfarm]

I think there are differing grades of MP's as well.

My region kicked out our MP, who was pretty good. We have had a string of decent ones, ones that work for the region, are established in parliament and have some influence.

They have been replaced with a Lib Dem MP who has no political experience and no commercial experience whatsoever. She has no influence, skill or experience but will net £500k for her term on the backbenchers voting for whatever she is told to vote for.

Total waste of space.

+1

[firlandsfarm]

The nonsense visible on social media platforms against the new Labour leaders is very similar to the nonsense seen against Tory leaders in the last few years. I always assumed it was generated by people with political agendas but I'm starting to wonder whether it could be foreign states aiming to destabilise the country. Do people really care whether Keir Starmer buys his own glasses or how Boris pays for new wallpaper? Or do they need to be whipped up into a frenzy by social media first?

But this was inevitable, the media in trying to outdo each other hyped their comment more than the competitor's previous comment. I commented in response to pro-Labour posts here, 'wait until they get hold of Labour! They will attack Labour with everything they can find from their past.' No I don't care about Boris' wallpaper or Keir's glasses (other than to wonder why they were so expensive) but having killed the Conservatives with such tactics would it be right for Labour to be allowed to get off scott free? ... live by the sword, die by the sword. The best way to stop it is for this Government to think before they jump. Don't introduce a policy that they previously claimed could result in 4,000 deaths; don't claim you will smash the gangs when they are operating outside your jurisdiction; don't give train drivers a 22%/£10,000 pay rise and then claim the previous Government left you with a financial black hole that you half created ... and more, and more, and more.

[Archery1969]

The nonsense visible on social media platforms against the new Labour leaders is very similar to the nonsense seen against Tory leaders in the last few years. I always assumed it was generated by people with political agendas but I'm starting to wonder whether it could be foreign states aiming to destabilise the country. Do people really care whether Keir Starmer buys his own glasses or how Boris pays for new wallpaper? Or do they need to be whipped up into a frenzy by social media first?

But this was inevitable, the media in trying to outdo each other hyped their comment more than the competitor's previous comment. I commented in response to pro-Labour posts here, 'wait until they get hold of Labour! They will attack Labour with everything they can find from their past.' No I don't care about Boris' wallpaper or Keir's glasses (other than to wonder why they were so expensive) but having killed the Conservatives with such tactics would it be right for Labour to be allowed to get off scott free? ... live by the sword, die by the sword. The best way to stop it is for this Government to think before they jump. Don't introduce a policy that they previously claimed could result in 4,000 deaths; don't claim you will smash the gangs when they are operating outside your jurisdiction; don't give train drivers a 22%/£10,000 pay rise and then claim the previous Government left you with a financial black hole that you half created ... and more, and more, and more.

+ 1

One problem now is all the unions know they can threaten strike action every year until the end of this parliament and Labour has no choice but to cave in. If that continues and the economy doesn’t grow as they wish then further borrowing will go through the roof leaving the next government with even more tied hands behind their back.

The UK is now on a slippery slope to even more chaos than the previous government created.

[firlandsfarm]

One problem now is all the unions know they can threaten strike action every year until the end of this parliament and Labour has no choice but to cave in. If that continues and the economy doesn’t grow as they wish then further borrowing will go through the roof leaving the next government with even more tied hands behind their back.

The UK is now on a slippery slope to even more chaos than the previous government created.

+1

[jimibt]

i reckon hearts and kisses look better than bland +1's

[firlandsfarm]

i reckon hearts and kisses look better than bland +1's

There isn't a 'heart' nor a 'kiss' available on the 'smilies' but there is a

[greenmark]

The nonsense visible on social media platforms against the new Labour leaders is very similar to the nonsense seen against Tory leaders in the last few years. I always assumed it was generated by people with political agendas but I'm starting to wonder whether it could be foreign states aiming to destabilise the country. Do people really care whether Keir Starmer buys his own glasses or how Boris pays for new wallpaper? Or do they need to be whipped up into a frenzy by social media first?

But this was inevitable, the media in trying to outdo each other hyped their comment more than the competitor's previous comment. I commented in response to pro-Labour posts here, 'wait until they get hold of Labour! They will attack Labour with everything they can find from their past.' No I don't care about Boris' wallpaper or Keir's glasses (other than to wonder why they were so expensive) but having killed the Conservatives with such tactics would it be right for Labour to be allowed to get off scott free? ... live by the sword, die by the sword. The best way to stop it is for this Government to think before they jump. Don't introduce a policy that they previously claimed could result in 4,000 deaths; don't claim you will smash the gangs when they are operating outside your jurisdiction; don't give train drivers a 22%/£10,000 pay rise and then claim the previous Government left you with a financial black hole that you half created ... and more, and more, and more.

+ 1

One problem now is all the unions know they can threaten strike action every year until the end of this parliament and Labour has no choice but to cave in. If that continues and the economy doesn’t grow as they wish then further borrowing will go through the roof leaving the next government with even more tied hands behind their back.

The UK is now on a slippery slope to even more chaos than the previous government created.

Ironic that right wingers now whinge that a group has used their power to get what they want.
For the record, I think the train drivers and their union were taking the p***. But that's the world we live in.
Don''t recruit/train enough drivers. Run the system on overtime. What do you expect to happen next? Supply/demand is ugly, but it's inarguable.

[jimibt]

i reckon hearts and kisses look better than bland +1's

There isn't a 'heart' nor a 'kiss' available on the 'smilies' but there is a

I see....

[firlandsfarm]

i reckon hearts and kisses look better than bland +1's

There isn't a 'heart' nor a 'kiss' available on the 'smilies' but there is a

I see....

Not on my forum!

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[jimibt]

There isn't a 'heart' nor a 'kiss' available on the 'smilies' but there is a

I see....

Not on my forum!
Love&Kisses.png

using my f-u-o-n-e

[firlandsfarm]

I see....

Not on my forum!
Love&Kisses.png

using my f-u-o-n-e

Nah, laptop is much more efficient for me

[jimibt]

Not on my forum!
Love&Kisses.png

using my f-u-o-n-e

Nah, laptop is much more efficient for me

ditto...