US Presidential Election 2024

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The Apprentice, a film about Trump's life and depicts him raping his first wife will be in cinemas before election day.

Have you seen Idiocracy?

I thought we were miles off that but we may be already there, meet some of your voters : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw9B03-n7J4

Randomly watched this the other day. Finders Keepers, a UK kids quiz show from the 1980s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk6Kz9lOFIw

Some example questions (all answered correctly):
> What is the fur of a white stoat called?
> What is Esperanto?
> What does an otter live in?
> What was the Christian name of Napoleon's wife?

Imagine asking these kind of questions to 12-year olds today

Wthout googling (honest gov!).
Ermin
An ancient language
Aaargh ..... water. No clearly not.
Marie

[jamesedwards]

Have you seen Idiocracy?

I thought we were miles off that but we may be already there, meet some of your voters : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw9B03-n7J4

Randomly watched this the other day. Finders Keepers, a UK kids quiz show from the 1980s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk6Kz9lOFIw

Some example questions (all answered correctly):
> What is the fur of a white stoat called?
> What is Esperanto?
> What does an otter live in?
> What was the Christian name of Napoleon's wife?

Imagine asking these kind of questions to 12-year olds today

Wthout googling (honest gov!).
Ermin
An ancient language
Aaargh ..... water. No clearly not.
Marie

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Randomly watched this the other day. Finders Keepers, a UK kids quiz show from the 1980s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk6Kz9lOFIw

Some example questions (all answered correctly):
> What is the fur of a white stoat called?
> What is Esperanto?
> What does an otter live in?
> What was the Christian name of Napoleon's wife?

Imagine asking these kind of questions to 12-year olds today

Wthout googling (honest gov!).
Ermin
An ancient language
Aaargh ..... water. No clearly not.
Marie

Capture47.JPG

Otter - jeez I knew that but couldn't summon it up.
Napolean's 2nd wife was Marie. But I didn't know that. That was an accident.
There you go, mental age below 12. Explains a lot.

[Derek27]

The Apprentice, a film about Trump's life and depicts him raping his first wife will be in cinemas before election day.

Have you seen Idiocracy?

I thought we were miles off that but we may be already there, meet some of your voters : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw9B03-n7J4

flipping hell!!! Three countries besides the USA!

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I'm beginning to wonder whether Musk is trying to undermine Trump from inside the campaign.

[Frogmella]

I'm beginning to wonder whether Musk is trying to undermine Trump from inside the campaign.

You can't undermine Trump. In a fair election he will win by a HUGE landslide.

Obviously........they won't let that happen.

They're already saying that it will be several days after 5th November before they will be able to announce the results of the election in the important swing states. This is because they need to know how many votes to fabricate for the ham sandwich and they will need A LOT time to fabricate them all . Some of these states have 500,000 more registered "voters" than they have population. Which is why the Democrats vehemently oppose voting-in-person with ID.

Additionally, the US Department of Defence has just given authorization for US soldiers to fire upon their own citizens.

I expect it to start kicking-off around the 10th November. Perhaps Betfair could open a market for us.

[sionascaig]

I'm beginning to wonder whether Musk is trying to undermine Trump from inside the campaign.

You can't undermine Trump. In a fair election he will win by a HUGE landslide.

Obviously........they won't let that happen.

They're already saying that it will be several days after 5th November before they will be able to announce the results of the election in the important swing states. This is because they need to know how many votes to fabricate for the ham sandwich and they will need A LOT time to fabricate them all . Some of these states have 500,000 more registered "voters" than they have population. Which is why the Democrats vehemently oppose voting-in-person with ID.

Additionally, the US Department of Defence has just given authorization for US soldiers to fire upon their own citizens.

I expect it to start kicking-off around the 10th November. Perhaps Betfair could open a market for us.

Forgot to take your medication again?

[greenmark]

I'm beginning to wonder whether Musk is trying to undermine Trump from inside the campaign.

You can't undermine Trump. In a fair election he will win by a HUGE landslide.

Obviously........they won't let that happen.

They're already saying that it will be several days after 5th November before they will be able to announce the results of the election in the important swing states. This is because they need to know how many votes to fabricate for the ham sandwich and they will need A LOT time to fabricate them all . Some of these states have 500,000 more registered "voters" than they have population. Which is why the Democrats vehemently oppose voting-in-person with ID.

Additionally, the US Department of Defence has just given authorization for US soldiers to fire upon their own citizens.

I expect it to start kicking-off around the 10th November. Perhaps Betfair could open a market for us.

I'm pretty certain that every legal challenge by the Repulicans after the last election failed. Regardless of state or allegiance of the judges.
Even if there are dodgy dealings going on both sides will be at it.
Anyhow we know each others view on this.
Apologies for dropping the grenade into the thread.

[Vaz0202]

According to polling, Harris is really struggling with the black and Latino male vote. She isn’t doing enough outside of the female gender and it may well cost her

[Frogmella]

I'm beginning to wonder whether Musk is trying to undermine Trump from inside the campaign.

You can't undermine Trump. In a fair election he will win by a HUGE landslide.

Obviously........they won't let that happen.

They're already saying that it will be several days after 5th November before they will be able to announce the results of the election in the important swing states. This is because they need to know how many votes to fabricate for the ham sandwich and they will need A LOT time to fabricate them all . Some of these states have 500,000 more registered "voters" than they have population. Which is why the Democrats vehemently oppose voting-in-person with ID.

Additionally, the US Department of Defence has just given authorization for US soldiers to fire upon their own citizens.

I expect it to start kicking-off around the 10th November. Perhaps Betfair could open a market for us.

Forgot to take your medication again?

I'm not sure which particular truth you are objecting too.

Please refer to: DoD Directive 5240-1 dated 24th September, 2024. Paragraph 2(c) I quote:
"Assistance in responding with assets with potential for lethality, or any situation in which it is reasonable foreseeable that providing the requested assistance may involve the use of force that is likely to result in lethal force, including death or serious bodily injury. It also includes all support to civilian law enforcement officials in situations where a confrontation between civil law enforcement and civilian individuals or groups is reasonable anticipated...."

They are CLEARLY preparing for civil war. If they can't murder Trump and they can't cheat enough to keep him out of office. They have stated that they WILL NOT confirm him.

MeanwhIle, in Missouri, in an election integrity lawsuit, the State Attorney General has just provided to the court evidence of Democrats registering DOGS as voters in order to obtain extra postal ballot papers.

I don't personally give a damn who is President of the US but what they get away with over there will soon be common practice over here. Don't forget we are already jailing people for typing some hurty words on social media.

[greenmark]

You can't undermine Trump. In a fair election he will win by a HUGE landslide.

Obviously........they won't let that happen.

They're already saying that it will be several days after 5th November before they will be able to announce the results of the election in the important swing states. This is because they need to know how many votes to fabricate for the ham sandwich and they will need A LOT time to fabricate them all . Some of these states have 500,000 more registered "voters" than they have population. Which is why the Democrats vehemently oppose voting-in-person with ID.

Additionally, the US Department of Defence has just given authorization for US soldiers to fire upon their own citizens.

I expect it to start kicking-off around the 10th November. Perhaps Betfair could open a market for us.

Forgot to take your medication again?

I'm not sure which particular truth you are objecting too.

Please refer to: DoD Directive 5240-1 dated 24th September, 2024. Paragraph 2(c) I quote:
"Assistance in responding with assets with potential for lethality, or any situation in which it is reasonable foreseeable that providing the requested assistance may involve the use of force that is likely to result in lethal force, including death or serious bodily injury. It also includes all support to civilian law enforcement officials in situations where a confrontation between civil law enforcement and civilian individuals or groups is reasonable anticipated...."

They are CLEARLY preparing for civil war. If they can't murder Trump and they can't cheat enough to keep him out of office. They have stated that they WILL NOT confirm him.

MeanwhIle, in Missouri, in an election integrity lawsuit, the State Attorney General has just provided to the court evidence of Democrats registering DOGS as voters in order to obtain extra postal ballot papers.

I don't personally give a damn who is President of the US but what they get away with over there will soon be common practice over here. Don't forget we are already jailing people for typing some hurty words on social media.

Whats your reference for that? Do you have link to the US gov website that lays out the whole statute rather than a cherry-picked misquoted paragraph.

EDIT: Actually forget that. I've found the US Gov docs and the interpretation your source has placed on it is absolute BS.
The paragraph you mention references regulation of dealing with civil disorder that dates back to 2016.
If you are going to listen to bloggers that talk bollocks you should at least head to the source material and make your own judgement.
That's an hour of ferreting I won't get back.

[Frogmella]

Forgot to take your medication again?

I'm not sure which particular truth you are objecting too.

Please refer to: DoD Directive 5240-1 dated 24th September, 2024. Paragraph 2(c) I quote:
"Assistance in responding with assets with potential for lethality, or any situation in which it is reasonable foreseeable that providing the requested assistance may involve the use of force that is likely to result in lethal force, including death or serious bodily injury. It also includes all support to civilian law enforcement officials in situations where a confrontation between civil law enforcement and civilian individuals or groups is reasonable anticipated...."

They are CLEARLY preparing for civil war. If they can't murder Trump and they can't cheat enough to keep him out of office. They have stated that they WILL NOT confirm him.

MeanwhIle, in Missouri, in an election integrity lawsuit, the State Attorney General has just provided to the court evidence of Democrats registering DOGS as voters in order to obtain extra postal ballot papers.

I don't personally give a damn who is President of the US but what they get away with over there will soon be common practice over here. Don't forget we are already jailing people for typing some hurty words on social media.

Whats your reference for that? Do you have link to the US gov website that lays out the whole statute rather than a cherry-picked misquoted paragraph.

EDIT: Actually forget that. I've found the US Gov docs and the interpretation your source has placed on it is absolute BS.
The paragraph you mention references regulation of dealing with civil disorder that dates back to 2016.
If you are going to listen to bloggers that talk bollocks you should at least head to the source material and make your own judgement.
That's an hour of ferreting I won't get back.

I quoted it DIRECTLY from the document itself. Do you think I would cite it without having read it?

It says PRECISELY what I quoted. It empowers the US military to enjoin with local law enforcement to shoot dead their own citizens. The fact that this document has been issued a few weeks before an election shows EXACTLY what is it's intention.

[sionascaig]

I'm not sure which particular truth you are objecting too.

Please refer to: DoD Directive 5240-1 dated 24th September, 2024. Paragraph 2(c) I quote:
"Assistance in responding with assets with potential for lethality, or any situation in which it is reasonable foreseeable that providing the requested assistance may involve the use of force that is likely to result in lethal force, including death or serious bodily injury. It also includes all support to civilian law enforcement officials in situations where a confrontation between civil law enforcement and civilian individuals or groups is reasonable anticipated...."

They are CLEARLY preparing for civil war. If they can't murder Trump and they can't cheat enough to keep him out of office. They have stated that they WILL NOT confirm him.

MeanwhIle, in Missouri, in an election integrity lawsuit, the State Attorney General has just provided to the court evidence of Democrats registering DOGS as voters in order to obtain extra postal ballot papers.

I don't personally give a damn who is President of the US but what they get away with over there will soon be common practice over here. Don't forget we are already jailing people for typing some hurty words on social media.

I wasn't specifically referring to that but now you have drawn my attention I did have a good laugh reading through some of the Q-Anon / infowars / Truth Social nonsense associated with it.

It is highly ironic that these nutjobs don't like the idea that someone else might have a gun pointed in their direction when they present a risk of life to others...

Anyhow, the bit you missed out is that the above is not really all that different from the 2007 or 2013 directives and really just refers to what the Sec of Defence "can" authorise... And the "use of force" is still governed under the DoDD 5210.56 directive, which includes things like:

(2) Deadly force is justified only when subject poses an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm
(3) An oral warning must be given prior to the use of deadly force
(4) Deadly force may only be used when reasonable, including, but not limited to
(a) Self-defence and defence of other DoD personnel.
(b) Defence of others

And the danger is that the nutjobs in question take this seriously and gear up for some armed conflict.

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I'm not sure which particular truth you are objecting too.

Please refer to: DoD Directive 5240-1 dated 24th September, 2024. Paragraph 2(c) I quote:
"Assistance in responding with assets with potential for lethality, or any situation in which it is reasonable foreseeable that providing the requested assistance may involve the use of force that is likely to result in lethal force, including death or serious bodily injury. It also includes all support to civilian law enforcement officials in situations where a confrontation between civil law enforcement and civilian individuals or groups is reasonable anticipated...."

They are CLEARLY preparing for civil war. If they can't murder Trump and they can't cheat enough to keep him out of office. They have stated that they WILL NOT confirm him.

MeanwhIle, in Missouri, in an election integrity lawsuit, the State Attorney General has just provided to the court evidence of Democrats registering DOGS as voters in order to obtain extra postal ballot papers.

I don't personally give a damn who is President of the US but what they get away with over there will soon be common practice over here. Don't forget we are already jailing people for typing some hurty words on social media.

Whats your reference for that? Do you have link to the US gov website that lays out the whole statute rather than a cherry-picked misquoted paragraph.

EDIT: Actually forget that. I've found the US Gov docs and the interpretation your source has placed on it is absolute BS.
The paragraph you mention references regulation of dealing with civil disorder that dates back to 2016.
If you are going to listen to bloggers that talk bollocks you should at least head to the source material and make your own judgement.
That's an hour of ferreting I won't get back.

I quoted it DIRECTLY from the document itself. Do you think I would cite it without having read it?

It says PRECISELY what I quoted. It empowers the US military to enjoin with local law enforcement to shoot dead their own citizens. The fact that this document has been issued a few weeks before an election shows EXACTLY what is it's intention.

That is wildly inaccurate. It refers to a longstanding regulation of how civil disorder should be dealt with. It doesn't say "shoot 'em all"".
It says "shoot them according to these limits". Which go back to 2016 and beyond. You're talking absolute bollocks.

[Archery1969]

@frogmella

You might find this article interesting from a reliable think tank.

https://www.chathamhouse.org/2024/02/co ... al-divorce

The US is no different to any other country. All countries have the right in law to use lethal force in times of civil war being declared by their incumbent governments.

Hell, it doesn’t even have to be a civil war. Look at what happened to the guy on the London tube who was mistaken for a terrorist. Somebody gave an order, they and the people who shot him were never prosecuted. Instead the UK government paid an undisclosed fee to his family. In essence he was mudered by the UK state.

If the US does have another civil war then it will be carnage with 360 million firearms in circulation and untold amounts of explosives. You will have civilians and national guardsmen killing each other when loyalties gets displaced. And that’s even before the police and regular army gets involved.

There is no conspiracy to murder Trump by those in power. It would be stupid to as he would become some sort of martyr and very possibly then escalate to civil war in some shape or form.