Excuses, Excuses, Excuses

[jimibt]

firland -i did promise it - c'mere ya big lardy da!!

[jimibt]

quick summation: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxl1zd07l1o

[jimibt]

hello??

[jamesedwards]

The only thing I would say I have an issue with is throwing more money at the NHS, ideally I'd like to see a full recovery plan in place along with where savings can be made from within the NHS as there appears to be a lot of waste and mis-management within it before chucking an extra 22 billion at it and hoping for the best.

Agreed. The NHS is fundamentally screwed purely because treatment cost is ballooning while we are living longer and getting sicker. When it started it cost something like 3% of GDP, today it costs close to 15%. This just can't go on forever.

The trouble is no government will want to poke it too hard so it will always be kicked down the road.

[jimibt]

The only thing I would say I have an issue with is throwing more money at the NHS, ideally I'd like to see a full recovery plan in place along with where savings can be made from within the NHS as there appears to be a lot of waste and mis-management within it before chucking an extra 22 billion at it and hoping for the best.

Agreed. The NHS is fundamentally screwed purely because treatment cost is ballooning while we are living longer and getting sicker. When it started it cost something like 3% of GDP, today it costs close to 15%. This just can't go on forever.

The trouble is no government will want to poke it too hard so it will always be kicked down the road.

agreed. it's strayed from it's original virtues. as you said previously, potentially too many layers of management coupled with private companies trying to fleece a quick buck out of it.

[jamesedwards]

hello??

I think the main problem is the lack of fund raising to pay for the investment plans.

Goes to show just how much has been generated by cooking the books. Presumably it will be several years before the fall out from the accounting changes is fully understood.

Cross fingers we get away with it.

[jimibt]

hello??

I think the main problem is the lack of fund raising to pay for the investment plans.

Goes to show just how much has been generated by cooking the books. Presumably it will be several years before the fall out from the accounting changes is fully understood.

Cross fingers we get away with it.

basically, a centrist budget if ever there was one.

[Euler]

The only thing I would say I have an issue with is throwing more money at the NHS, ideally I'd like to see a full recovery plan in place along with where savings can be made from within the NHS as there appears to be a lot of waste and mis-management within it before chucking an extra 22 billion at it and hoping for the best.

Agreed. The NHS is fundamentally screwed purely because treatment cost is ballooning while we are living longer and getting sicker. When it started it cost something like 3% of GDP, today it costs close to 15%. This just can't go on forever.

The trouble is no government will want to poke it too hard so it will always be kicked down the road.

It's clear the funding model is broken and soooo much goes on wages and pensions now that you could pump a fortune into it and it still wouldn't improve that much.

Needs a different model, but nobody will bite the bullet.

[Archery1969]

The UK is sitting on £25 billion of Russian assets.

Why don’t they just pinch it ?

I’ll get my coat.

[jimibt]

The UK is sitting on £25 billion of Russian assets.

Why don’t they just pinch it ?

I’ll get my coat.

does seem like a crazy but fair notion!! hmmm

btw -This budget has been a total disaster...














...for the Daily Mail, The Telegraph and Express editors.

[Archery1969]

The only thing I would say I have an issue with is throwing more money at the NHS, ideally I'd like to see a full recovery plan in place along with where savings can be made from within the NHS as there appears to be a lot of waste and mis-management within it before chucking an extra 22 billion at it and hoping for the best.

Agreed. The NHS is fundamentally screwed purely because treatment cost is ballooning while we are living longer and getting sicker. When it started it cost something like 3% of GDP, today it costs close to 15%. This just can't go on forever.

The trouble is no government will want to poke it too hard so it will always be kicked down the road.

It's clear the funding model is broken and soooo much goes on wages and pensions now that you could pump a fortune into it and it still wouldn't improve that much.

Needs a different model, but nobody will bite the bullet.

I really don’t understand why they don’t adopt the Singapore Healthcare system. It’s ranked no 1 in the world. It’s made up of Medishield, Medisave and the Government covering those with no job. Basically employees and employers pay for the system. But it’s all controlled by the Government. Premiums cannot rise unless the Government agrees.

[Archery1969]

The UK is sitting on £25 billion of Russian assets.

Why don’t they just pinch it ?

I’ll get my coat.

does seem like a crazy but fair notion!! hmmm

btw -This budget has been a total disaster...














...for the Daily Mail, The Telegraph and Express editors.

It seems Martin Lewes, Landlords, Employers, Hedge Funds all disagree Jim.

I am none of the above so don’t care.

[jimibt]

The UK is sitting on £25 billion of Russian assets.

Why don’t they just pinch it ?

I’ll get my coat.

does seem like a crazy but fair notion!! hmmm

btw -This budget has been a total disaster...

...for the Daily Mail, The Telegraph and Express editors.

It seems Martin Lewes, Landlords, Employers, Hedge Funds all disagree Jim.

I am none of the above so don’t care.

i feel for the hedge funds almost as much as i do for scum landlords - i'm none of the above

[Euler]

I sort of feel to make departments accountable, maybe taxes should be more direct and laid out clearer. Then people can see if they are

The big issue with taxes is that when a government or public body spend, it's in one direction only. Never gets cuts, only goes up.

The tax burden by business is very high and if business fail they go bust. So when times are hard they have to act, unlike goverments.

[Archery1969]

does seem like a crazy but fair notion!! hmmm

btw -This budget has been a total disaster...

...for the Daily Mail, The Telegraph and Express editors.

It seems Martin Lewes, Landlords, Employers, Hedge Funds all disagree Jim.

I am none of the above so don’t care.

i feel for the hedge funds almost as much as i do for scum landlords - i'm none of the above

I agree but if landlords all fuck off, that would be a huge issue without social/council housing to replace what they.

When I got my first rented flat in Brighton my landlord was Nicholas van Hoogstraten. A lovely chap. Landlords today are pussies compare to him.