US Presidential Election 2024

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Archery1969
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 4:19 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 3:44 pm
A weekend poll from Iowa suggests Kamala Harris has leapfrogged Donald Trump.

If true then that could be a game changer overall.
"Kamala Harris has leapfrogged Donald Trump."
There's an image! :lol:
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Derek27
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flipping hell, didn't realise it's just two days to go!
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Derek27
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Trump commended a pollster for good accurate work, but now the polls have swung the other way, she's a Trump hater. :)
Emmson
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I'm now believe the End of Trumpism is Nigh.

Too many respected American speculators/pollsters/commentators have been referring to a late Kamala surge that has been occurring, here is one but there are several others.

https://x.com/VVeedla/status/1853034601112887563
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Derek27
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Emmson wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:56 pm
I'm now believe the End of Trumpism is Nigh.

Too many respected American pollsters have been referring to a late Kamala surge that has been occurring, here is one but there are several others.

https://x.com/VVeedla/status/1853034601112887563
There are a lot of Trumpists who think there are just two possible election outcomes. Trump wins or he has the election stolen. Trouble is on the cards. :)
Emmson
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Also the fact they are investing so much time on North Carolina cannot be a good sign for Trump.

Ukraine is btw foremost in my thoughts, I don't want it to be overrun and it would be if that bloated monster is elected.

https://x.com/Domahhhh/status/1853086999873196202
Archery1969
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Emmson wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 7:07 pm
Also the fact they are investing so much time on North Carolina cannot be a good sign for Trump.

Ukraine is btw foremost in my thoughts, I don't want it to be overrun and it would be if that bloated monster is elected.

https://x.com/Domahhhh/status/1853086999873196202
It looks certain, whoever wins that Ukraine will be forced to the negotiating table. Much quicker with Trump but it will happen with Harris too.

Don’t forget, in one respect, it doesn’t matter whiever wins, if you don’t also win the senate then effectively your a lame duck as they can block literally everything.

And if USA pulls the plug on Ukraine, the EU/UK can’t finance it themselves. The USA controls most of the infrastructure to get weapons to Ukraine with a certain level of safety. Also, the very high tech missile systems are US owned. If the Republicans win the Senate then they will block funding and weapon transfers unless Zelenskyy sits down, gives up 1/3 of Ukraine.

Don’t get me wrong, I want Ukraine to win and win big but politics and money is a bad combination, the world over.

That’s why i said Ukraine needs to do something BIG and quickly. And it’s running out of willing manpower.
Taff15
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I’m not so sure on this, if Trump loses, and all the crap he will instigate has died down, surely his hold over the Republican Party will start to weaken, as well as his own brand of self importance.

Therefore opening the door for a potential reset on USA politics, and some common sense kicking in?

This could also mean a bit of a reset on the world stage?
Archery1969
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Taff15 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:22 pm
I’m not so sure on this, if Trump loses, and all the crap he will instigate has died down, surely his hold over the Republican Party will start to weaken, as well as his own brand of self importance.

Therefore opening the door for a potential reset on USA politics, and some common sense kicking in?

This could also mean a bit of a reset on the world stage?
Your missing the point. Republicans tend to own more firearms and explosives than their Decomcratic opponents. The Police and government at local and federal level has no idea what each individual has in their home, shed, loft, dog house, hen house or bunker.

Like i said, it will all come down to who wins the senate, not so much the whitehouse.

Republicans and Democrates agree on very little.

I really dont think Trump is going to win. Hopefully not. But he and his Republican party could potentially do allot of damage to Harris, the USA, Europe and the rest of the world, even if they lose, assuming they win the senate.
greenmark
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Trump now 1.8. I'm a bit astonished but hopeful that the US has finally seen through his narcissistic idiocy.
Archery1969
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:21 pm
Trump now 1.8. I'm a bit astonished but hopeful that the US has finally seen through his narcissistic idiocy.
He cant/wont win. I said 2 weeks ago the odds were totally wrong.

I would be more concerned on who wins the Senate, as they control the real power.
Emmson
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Another clue to Trumps impending defeat is his moroseness and self-pity in his latest speeches.
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Emmson wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:09 pm
Another clue to Trumps impending defeat is his moroseness and self-pity in his latest speeches.
But still ahead on the exchange.
I know that isn't definitve but is a huge amount of aggregated opinon.
Perhaps this late slide towards Harris is more significant than the mass of bets so far.
Still won't get involved. My cards are on the table already.
Republican = probaby bad
Trump = expletives
Harris = she's an attorney, she's clever
I'm in the UK I'd rather Harris managed my country than Trump. But the US is 50* STATES and I think state is worth remembering.
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firlandsfarm
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:20 pm
But still ahead on the exchange.
Impossible to know but interesting if we could ... how much of the market is down to Americans (at home and overseas) and how much to non-Americans. :D

Also how do our bookies' odds compare to USA bookies?
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:21 pm
Trump now 1.8. I'm a bit astonished but hopeful that the US has finally seen through his narcissistic idiocy.
It was 1.8 when I looked last night and first thing this morning but within a couple of hours some large trades pushed it down to 1.72-1.73.

Not sure what the hell happened over night to make this change because looking at Trumps' last rally in Macon, Georgia there were more people in my local Tesco's :D
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