Brighton 20.10.11

The sport of kings.
andyfuller
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£30,000 in running on Circus Clown (Fav again!)
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Euler
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Could easily be some body on tilt? Seems desperate to get big money matched.
andyfuller
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I would really suggest no one blindly follows this money thinking it is educated money as everything points to it being anything but. They just want their money on usually regardless of price and just want it on the Fav at the moment.
hgodden
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They hammered Circus Clown in running on the last then even though it wasnt going great. Theres nothing clever behind it. However they made their money it certainly wasnt in racing
andyfuller
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Euler wrote:Could easily be some body on tilt? Seems desperate to get big money matched.
Obviously could be but I don't believe that to be the case. It has happened far too many times and with regularity and the MO is very predictable. They know what they are doing and imo don't care if they win or lose.
andyfuller
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hgodden wrote:They hammered Circus Clown in running on the last then even though it wasnt going great. Theres nothing clever behind it. However they made their money it certainly wasnt in racing
Exactly! How to lose £80,000 roughly in 5 minutes!
Innertube
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Probably somebody from the Betfair board then :lol:
steven1976
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Why would someone gamble these amounts as pure punts on betfair if they are to pay 60% on winnings if they got on a good run? Surely they would do it on betdaq. Seems a bit strange or they simply dont know about the charges.
andyfuller
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They are extremely unlikely to be affected by the Premium Charge, firstly because from my estimates they have lost a fortune but even if they were in profit their total charges would likely be massive.
andyfuller
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One thing is for sure they have the deepest pockets I have ever known. Lost about £20,000 on the 17.00 and have around £20,000 on Shifting Star here in the 17.10....
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Euler
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I've noticed he does it in batches so I am waiting for the first one in the hope of jumping in ahead of the second.
steven1976
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Is it all in play? If not, could it not be someone creating a market and self matching through their own money to create a panic?
andyfuller
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It isn't to often you get it in batches. What they usually do is put in the lump and then drop it that is what it looks like to me they have been doing mostly today. Sometimes they are removing it before putting it back in 30 seconds or so later at a lower price.
hgodden
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Whoever it was happily leaving 5k / 6k unmatched lay money on the favourite then in the 5.2 and all the other lay money must be pretty confident he's gone away
steven1976
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"I've noticed he does it in batches so I am waiting for the first one in the hope of jumping in ahead of the second."

I think its Peter, you dont give away the blue print that easily. Haha!
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