Windows Updates!

[firlandsfarm]

Staying in a hotel and attached to their wifi but it didn't twig that my 'metered connection' fix did not apply with the hotel service and Windows took full advantage overnight and installed updates, closing everything and despite having Edge set to restart where it left off, it didn't!

[jimibt]

Staying in a hotel and attached to their wifi but it didn't twig that my 'metered connection' fix did not apply with the hotel service and Windows took full advantage overnight and installed updates, closing everything and despite having Edge set to restart where it left off, it didn't!

yeah, i've noticed that painful issue when wifi connections are changed, can be happily motoring along for months (and applying the required updates manually when suits), then all of a sudden, my machine decides to apply the updates at the least convenient time due to wifi switch.

I know when i was a contractor working for one of the big uk commercial tv outfits that all machines were locked down to updates and were controlled centrally by the it guys - often applying *essential* updates months later. this took the sting out of rogue updates that trashed machines or cut into user productivity.

surely we can be trusted to self manage these updates and maybe even have a nag screen that becomes an annoyance after say 3 months of ignoring updates...

[foxwood]

surely we can be trusted to self manage these updates and maybe even have a nag screen that becomes an annoyance after say 3 months of ignoring updates...

ChatGPT (in which MS have a minority stake) says "No"

[Derek27]

It's the time of month again.

[conduirez]

One thing you guys can try to do, is follow what our national treasure the NHS does, and use XP machines, you might get your bank details stolen, but you will not be plagued with updates.

[weemac]

Mine updated about 10 days ago - restarting took so long that I thought my machine was dead.

btw, I only recently discovered that the normal 'shut down and manually start up as normal when I'm ready' I've done for decades is entirely different from the 're-start' option offered by Windows. The latter does a more complete re-set of windows and can fix some issues like audio or mouse problems.

[jamesedwards]

Ugh. It's time.

[jamesedwards]

Ugh. It's time.

My reward for diligently updating? All my carefully positioned desktop icons rearranged. Fuck you, Microsoft.. Fuck you.

[jamesedwards]

Ugh. It's time.

My reward for diligently updating? All my carefully positioned desktop icons rearranged. Fuck you, Microsoft.. Fuck you.

OMFG I just spent 10 mins moving them all back. Restarted. AND THEY'VE MOVED BACK AGAIN.

[Kai]

Ugh. It's time.

My reward for diligently updating? All my carefully positioned desktop icons rearranged. Fuck you, Microsoft.. Fuck you.

OMFG I just spent 10 mins moving them all back. Restarted. AND THEY'VE MOVED BACK AGAIN.

Stardock Fences

Saves layouts too

I can't do without Wallpaper Engine either anymore, really brings your desktop to life

[greenmark]

A couple of questions. On Windows 10, is it my fiddling that makes this update optional or is it optional for everyone, and what the hell is an update preview?

I've always avoided them because I suspect it's some sort of beta and they want to use you as a guinea pig before rolling it out. There's one on my Windows 11 device as well.


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My only fiddling is to delay till the next shutdown.
Never been given the option to accept/reject an update (although I may have but I'm not going to reject an update as I don't mess with the low level windows).
And haven'r been offered a preview either.

I don't really understand why anyone would want to sift what the update contains unless you don't trust your provider.
Having worked in IT support/maintenance the drive was always to rectify notified bugs in each release.
If they mess up (particularly with MS cusomer base gooing potty about a newly introduced bug)) it should be corrected in the nex release

[conduirez]

A couple of questions. On Windows 10, is it my fiddling that makes this update optional or is it optional for everyone, and what the hell is an update preview?

I've always avoided them because I suspect it's some sort of beta and they want to use you as a guinea pig before rolling it out. There's one on my Windows 11 device as well.


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My only fiddling is to delay till the next shutdown.
Never been given the option to accept/reject an update (although I may have but I'm not going to reject an update as I don't mess with the low level windows).
And haven'r been offered a preview either.

I don't really understand why anyone would want to sift what the update contains unless you don't trust your provider.
Having worked in IT support/maintenance the drive was always to rectify notified bugs in each release.
If they mess up (particularly with MS cusomer base gooing potty about a newly introduced bug)) it should be corrected in the nex release

I have one thing to say to you CrowdStrike

[greenmark]

A couple of questions. On Windows 10, is it my fiddling that makes this update optional or is it optional for everyone, and what the hell is an update preview?

I've always avoided them because I suspect it's some sort of beta and they want to use you as a guinea pig before rolling it out. There's one on my Windows 11 device as well.


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My only fiddling is to delay till the next shutdown.
Never been given the option to accept/reject an update (although I may have but I'm not going to reject an update as I don't mess with the low level windows).
And haven'r been offered a preview either.

I don't really understand why anyone would want to sift what the update contains unless you don't trust your provider.
Having worked in IT support/maintenance the drive was always to rectify notified bugs in each release.
If they mess up (particularly with MS cusomer base gooing potty about a newly introduced bug)) it should be corrected in the nex release

I have one thing to say to you CrowdStrike

Welll, there's plenty of fiction about over-reliance on a particluar tech source. So far we've dodged total meltdown, I suspect because there is a counter force that don't trust what they recieve and make sure they can recover if an update goes tits up. But not everybody has or wants to deploy those resources. And some organisations have truly terrible security processes and are sitting chickens that run around headless when something goes wrong. Trust me I worked for one of them.

[conduirez]

My only fiddling is to delay till the next shutdown.
Never been given the option to accept/reject an update (although I may have but I'm not going to reject an update as I don't mess with the low level windows).
And haven'r been offered a preview either.

I don't really understand why anyone would want to sift what the update contains unless you don't trust your provider.
Having worked in IT support/maintenance the drive was always to rectify notified bugs in each release.
If they mess up (particularly with MS cusomer base gooing potty about a newly introduced bug)) it should be corrected in the nex release

I have one thing to say to you CrowdStrike

Welll, there's plenty of fiction about over-reliance on a particluar tech source. So far we've dodged total meltdown, I suspect because there is a counter force that don't trust what they recieve and make sure they can recover if an update goes tits up. But not everybody has or wants to deploy those resources. And some organisations have truly terrible security processes and are sitting chickens that run around headless when something goes wrong. Trust me I worked for one of them.

I would put me in the counter force category, I always wait a fair few days to see if a calamity hits the news from a Windows update. There have been a couple in the last month alone, the last for Windows 11 23H2 is telling users, “Your version of Windows has reached the end of service” and you need to “Get the newer version of Windows to stay up to date“. Nothing too serious but still a problem.

There was a huge problem with the voluntary Windows 11 24H2 update, where 20% of machines were reporting the blue screen of death, Windows 11 24H2 will be forced upon users next year as Windows 11 23H2 is to be retired in November 2025.

Do I trust Microsoft updates generally yes, do I trust Microsoft updates on a machine I am using to trade on, no way.

[Derek27]

A couple of questions. On Windows 10, is it my fiddling that makes this update optional or is it optional for everyone, and what the hell is an update preview?

I've always avoided them because I suspect it's some sort of beta and they want to use you as a guinea pig before rolling it out. There's one on my Windows 11 device as well.


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My only fiddling is to delay till the next shutdown.
Never been given the option to accept/reject an update (although I may have but I'm not going to reject an update as I don't mess with the low level windows).
And haven'r been offered a preview either.

I don't really understand why anyone would want to sift what the update contains unless you don't trust your provider.
Having worked in IT support/maintenance the drive was always to rectify notified bugs in each release.
If they mess up (particularly with MS cusomer base gooing potty about a newly introduced bug)) it should be corrected in the nex release

Nobody in their right mind would trust Microsoft. They used to be honest and reliable, but since Windows 10 they've turned crooked. Windows 8 users received Windows 10 as a critical update, when it should have been merely recommended. They even had a close button on the banner alerting you that operated as an install button!

If you're running Windows 10/11 Pro edition, you can use group policies to disable automatic updates to a certain extent.