Ukraine Crisis

[Frogmella]

I would remind everyone on this thread that its no joking manner.

Over 1 million have been killed or seriously injured on the battlefield, from both sides.

When this all started I suggested Putin be taken out and I got allot of condemnation.

Russia has 47 strategic targets at home and abroad. Take them out in a coordinated attack and the dominos will fall, well before anyone starts launching Nukes. That kind of planning and execution has been done before, some of you are either too young or have dementia.

Ukraine was invaded, pure and simple. Ukraine did not invade Russia or start this mindless slaughter.

Its common knowledge when the Upper (Federation Council, 178 members) and Lower (State Duma, 450 members) meet in Russia.

Like I said, take the 47 military targets, Federation Council and State Duma, out all at the same time. No need for Nukes, well planned, secret, conventional warheads from land, sea, air and space. Plus cut off worldwide communications for a few minutes. It can be done. Russians abroad, sympathetic to Putin and Russia, then, what the US did 40 years ago with the Japanese, rounded up and internment camps, deported back to the Motherland.

Ukraine, should not give up 1 inch of land.

You need to stop all getting your information from the mainstream media. They lie all the time to get the simple-minded to fall in line. They told you the recent US Presidential election was to close to close call. They told you wearing a mask was save you from Covid, they told you the "vaccines" were safe and effective. Everything they say is bollocks because if they told the truth, the country would be unmanageable.

In 2014 in Odessa the Ukrainian Azov battalion barracaded several dozen ethnic-Russian pensioners in a trade union building and set it ablaze. They waited outside and clubbed to death anybody that managed to escape. Nobody was ever prosecuted. These are the men YOU support.

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/th ... ars-later/

This atrocity is as nothing compared to the wanton shelling of unarmed, ethnic-Russian civilians that killed over 10,000. It was incidents like these incidents that CAUSED the invasion. Russia WILL NOT allow the population they have rescued to fall back into the hands of these Nazis. (Germany recently expelled a group of Ukrainian soldiers for wearing Nazi emblems on their uniforms).

Russia/Putin isn't the baddie here....WE ARE. Wake up.

[Kai]

You need to stop all getting your information from the mainstream media.

Where do you get your news from then Frogmella?

[Derek27]

I would remind everyone on this thread that its no joking manner.

Over 1 million have been killed or seriously injured on the battlefield, from both sides.

When this all started I suggested Putin be taken out and I got allot of condemnation.

Russia has 47 strategic targets at home and abroad. Take them out in a coordinated attack and the dominos will fall, well before anyone starts launching Nukes. That kind of planning and execution has been done before, some of you are either too young or have dementia.

Ukraine was invaded, pure and simple. Ukraine did not invade Russia or start this mindless slaughter.

Its common knowledge when the Upper (Federation Council, 178 members) and Lower (State Duma, 450 members) meet in Russia.

Like I said, take the 47 military targets, Federation Council and State Duma, out all at the same time. No need for Nukes, well planned, secret, conventional warheads from land, sea, air and space. Plus cut off worldwide communications for a few minutes. It can be done. Russians abroad, sympathetic to Putin and Russia, then, what the US did 40 years ago with the Japanese, rounded up and internment camps, deported back to the Motherland.

Ukraine, should not give up 1 inch of land.

You need to stop all getting your information from the mainstream media. They lie all the time to get the simple-minded to fall in line. They told you the recent US Presidential election was to close to close call. They told you wearing a mask was save you from Covid, they told you the "vaccines" were safe and effective. Everything they say is bollocks because if they told the truth, the country would be unmanageable.

In 2014 in Odessa the Ukrainian Azov battalion barracaded several dozen ethnic-Russian pensioners in a trade union building and set it ablaze. They waited outside and clubbed to death anybody that managed to escape. Nobody was ever prosecuted. These are the men YOU support.

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/th ... ars-later/

This atrocity is as nothing compared to the wanton shelling of unarmed, ethnic-Russian civilians that killed over 10,000. It was incidents like these incidents that CAUSED the invasion. Russia WILL NOT allow the population they have rescued to fall back into the hands of these Nazis. (Germany recently expelled a group of Ukrainian soldiers for wearing Nazi emblems on their uniforms).

Russia/Putin isn't the baddie here....WE ARE. Wake up.

You're talking absolute crap Frogmella. MSM didn't tell us the election was too close to call. It just reported what the polls reported. And even the polls don't pretend to tell us what's going to happen. They're just reporting the results of their survey, which any intelligent person knows can be skewed by various factors. It's your interpretation of the news on MSM that's wrong.

I watch MSM all the time and I've never heard them say wearing a mask will save you from Covid. It reduces the probability of you spreading it, possibly by a few percent. Again, you're hearing what you want to hear, not what's said. You just need to pay a bit more attention and apply some intelligence to what you hear.

Vaccines are safe and effective. Don't know what makes you think otherwise.

[jamesedwards]

You need to stop all getting your information from the mainstream media.

Where do you get your news from then Frogmella?

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[Archery1969]

You need to stop all getting your information from the mainstream media.

Where do you get your news from then Frogmella?

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[Archery1969]

I would remind everyone on this thread that its no joking manner.

Over 1 million have been killed or seriously injured on the battlefield, from both sides.

When this all started I suggested Putin be taken out and I got allot of condemnation.

Russia has 47 strategic targets at home and abroad. Take them out in a coordinated attack and the dominos will fall, well before anyone starts launching Nukes. That kind of planning and execution has been done before, some of you are either too young or have dementia.

Ukraine was invaded, pure and simple. Ukraine did not invade Russia or start this mindless slaughter.

Its common knowledge when the Upper (Federation Council, 178 members) and Lower (State Duma, 450 members) meet in Russia.

Like I said, take the 47 military targets, Federation Council and State Duma, out all at the same time. No need for Nukes, well planned, secret, conventional warheads from land, sea, air and space. Plus cut off worldwide communications for a few minutes. It can be done. Russians abroad, sympathetic to Putin and Russia, then, what the US did 40 years ago with the Japanese, rounded up and internment camps, deported back to the Motherland.

Ukraine, should not give up 1 inch of land.

You need to stop all getting your information from the mainstream media. They lie all the time to get the simple-minded to fall in line. They told you the recent US Presidential election was to close to close call. They told you wearing a mask was save you from Covid, they told you the "vaccines" were safe and effective. Everything they say is bollocks because if they told the truth, the country would be unmanageable.

In 2014 in Odessa the Ukrainian Azov battalion barracaded several dozen ethnic-Russian pensioners in a trade union building and set it ablaze. They waited outside and clubbed to death anybody that managed to escape. Nobody was ever prosecuted. These are the men YOU support.

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/th ... ars-later/

This atrocity is as nothing compared to the wanton shelling of unarmed, ethnic-Russian civilians that killed over 10,000. It was incidents like these incidents that CAUSED the invasion. Russia WILL NOT allow the population they have rescued to fall back into the hands of these Nazis. (Germany recently expelled a group of Ukrainian soldiers for wearing Nazi emblems on their uniforms).

Russia/Putin isn't the baddie here....WE ARE. Wake up.

You’re quoting the “People’s World”, Marxist-Leninist publication.

[greenmark]

I would remind everyone on this thread that its no joking manner.

Over 1 million have been killed or seriously injured on the battlefield, from both sides.

When this all started I suggested Putin be taken out and I got allot of condemnation.

Russia has 47 strategic targets at home and abroad. Take them out in a coordinated attack and the dominos will fall, well before anyone starts launching Nukes. That kind of planning and execution has been done before, some of you are either too young or have dementia.

Ukraine was invaded, pure and simple. Ukraine did not invade Russia or start this mindless slaughter.

Its common knowledge when the Upper (Federation Council, 178 members) and Lower (State Duma, 450 members) meet in Russia.

Like I said, take the 47 military targets, Federation Council and State Duma, out all at the same time. No need for Nukes, well planned, secret, conventional warheads from land, sea, air and space. Plus cut off worldwide communications for a few minutes. It can be done. Russians abroad, sympathetic to Putin and Russia, then, what the US did 40 years ago with the Japanese, rounded up and internment camps, deported back to the Motherland.

Ukraine, should not give up 1 inch of land.

You need to stop all getting your information from the mainstream media. They lie all the time to get the simple-minded to fall in line. They told you the recent US Presidential election was to close to close call. They told you wearing a mask was save you from Covid, they told you the "vaccines" were safe and effective. Everything they say is bollocks because if they told the truth, the country would be unmanageable.

In 2014 in Odessa the Ukrainian Azov battalion barracaded several dozen ethnic-Russian pensioners in a trade union building and set it ablaze. They waited outside and clubbed to death anybody that managed to escape. Nobody was ever prosecuted. These are the men YOU support.

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/th ... ars-later/

This atrocity is as nothing compared to the wanton shelling of unarmed, ethnic-Russian civilians that killed over 10,000. It was incidents like these incidents that CAUSED the invasion. Russia WILL NOT allow the population they have rescued to fall back into the hands of these Nazis. (Germany recently expelled a group of Ukrainian soldiers for wearing Nazi emblems on their uniforms).

Russia/Putin isn't the baddie here....WE ARE. Wake up.

You’re quoting the “People’s World”, Marxist-Leninist publication.

Indeed and its ony half the story. You can look at Wikipedia or a number of western MSM for the detail.
Ironic though that peoplesworld reported it that stilted way. Putin has about as much to do with leftwing politics as Hitler.

[Kai]

You need to stop all getting your information from the mainstream media.

Where do you get your news from then Frogmella?

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Cannot believe that was a real headline.

The conspiracy theorists just keep coming out of left field!

[Archery1969]

Looks like Ukraine will fall well before Trump’s inauguration.

The leader of North Korea has ordered the mass production of drones and missiles for Putin to use. The same from Iran.

Ukraine has limited air defences. What Biden promised as not been delivered.

The UK, EU and NATO has a very tough decision to make. Either fully support Ukraine with equipment and boots on the ground or walk away.

I’m fairly confident where this is going now.

[Kai]

This is probably the most objective overview of the whole situation you can get : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIyHh-HSpHw

TL;DR Overall a relatively good period of Russia since they can absorb the record losses lately, opening that new Kursk front has cost Ukraine some ground on their own frontline

[Archery1969]

This is probably the most objective overview of the whole situation you can get : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIyHh-HSpHw

TL;DR Overall a relatively good period of Russia since they can absorb the record losses lately, opening that new Kursk front has cost Ukraine some ground on their own frontline

Economically, Russia will be in a very painful place next year. I suspect that’s why they going to smash Ukraine with everything they have between now and Trumps inauguration. Combined with North Korea’s and Irans drones and missiles.
Fighting trench warfare during winter will be horrific for Ukraine. No doubt, they will fall.

1 Russian ruble now is nearly worthless. Putin knows this, he needs to push and push for territory, quick for his settlement.

[greenmark]

This is probably the most objective overview of the whole situation you can get : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIyHh-HSpHw

TL;DR Overall a relatively good period of Russia since they can absorb the record losses lately, opening that new Kursk front has cost Ukraine some ground on their own frontline

Economically, Russia will be in a very painful place next year. I suspect that’s why they going to smash Ukraine with everything they have between now and Trumps inauguration. Combined with North Korea’s and Irans drones and missiles.
Fighting trench warfare during winter will be horrific for Ukraine. No doubt, they will fall.

1 Russian ruble now is nearly worthless. Putin knows this, he needs to push and push for territory, quick for his settlement.

Whats the difference between winter 2022 and 2023 and this?
Apart from battle fatigue and for families getting bad news like they have since the outset.
Putin is a nutter. The carnage he has unleashed is not justifiable in any way. And not just on the Ukrainians but his own people that he has squandered.
Hr is reportedly a devoutly religious person........ BOLLOCKS!!!

[Archery1969]

This is probably the most objective overview of the whole situation you can get : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIyHh-HSpHw

TL;DR Overall a relatively good period of Russia since they can absorb the record losses lately, opening that new Kursk front has cost Ukraine some ground on their own frontline

Economically, Russia will be in a very painful place next year. I suspect that’s why they going to smash Ukraine with everything they have between now and Trumps inauguration. Combined with North Korea’s and Irans drones and missiles.
Fighting trench warfare during winter will be horrific for Ukraine. No doubt, they will fall.

1 Russian ruble now is nearly worthless. Putin knows this, he needs to push and push for territory, quick for his settlement.

Whats the difference between winter 2022 and 2023 and this?
Apart from battle fatigue and for families getting bad news like they have since the outset.
Putin is a nutter. The carnage he has unleashed is not justifiable in any way. And not just on the Ukrainians but his own people that he has squandered.
Hr is reportedly a devoutly religious person........ BOLLOCKS!!!

Difference is, Ukraine hasn’t received the last promised equipment, Putin knows he has to take as much land as possible before Trumps inauguration. North Korea and Iran are sending 8,000 missiles and Shells to Russia in the next 2 weeks. Putin will launch what he can against Kyiv, they won’t be able to cope or stop that barrage daily.

For the first time since 2022, Germany spoke with Putin today. Which has pissed off Ukraine. Germany government is now a puppet with elections early next year as they are stuck because of its inwards collapse. Germany still relies on Russia heavily. I suspect if they are asked to step up with money, expertise and equipment then the answer will be NO. The UK and France can’t financially fill the void.

Putin will now win on his terms.

[Archery1969]

Has Germany done the unthinkable. My grandad told me to never trust a German.

Of course you should never treat those now for past progressions by their forefathers, maybe Germany is returning to type.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war- ... s-12541713

[greenmark]

Has Germany done the unthinkable. My grandad told me to never trust a German.

Of course you should never treat those now for past progressions by their forefathers, maybe Germany is returning to type.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war- ... s-12541713

Oddly I have a different view on gas. As this scenario drags on Russia's European customers have and are feverishly finding alternative sources.
And in the long term it's now clear Russia has proved they are prepared to us energy as weapon so everyone else is redoubling their efforts for energy independence or at least energy sharing with trusted partners. Gas is a dead duck 20 years from nw. But I guess Putin doesn't care about that 'cos he'll be gone.