Automation of recent Peter Video: "Mastering Betfair Trading Setups That Actually Work!"

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Fugazi
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I watched Peters recent video "Mastering Betfair Trading Setups That Actually Work!"

(Strategy at 3 mins replicated)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oxVWHVYdoE&t=187s

I had a bit of a brainwave to automate it. I've never used signals before so have had a go, but it seems very brute force the way I've tried to set it up. I hope this file offers value to others in sparking ideas to automate this strategy.

Also, I'm hoping for some input how I can improve it. Not even sure the file works as it should. I want to capture the price dipping in and out of the 2.0-2.2 zone multiple times, but the nuances of the way I've currently set up it, it will fire as the price drops regardless of whether it goes in and out of zone multiple times.

Also, couldn't figure out a better way to instruct the bot not to fire if the price has been below 1.95 at any point in the last 20 mins. (I've done a botch job of this in the back bet conditions section)
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jtrader
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Fugazi, I think your back bet rule never couldn't trigger ,cause max value could have your signal 'trigger' for current selection (that you are using in back bet conditions) could be = 14 in your set up conditions and trigger times.

And more than that you don't use signal for market that you set up too.

And if you are using signal 'trigger' for market , it could have only 3 possible values -> 1 or 10 or 100 as you set up in conditions.

That's why I think it's something wrong with that .baf file logic.
Fugazi
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jtrader wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:15 am
Fugazi, I think your back bet rule never couldn't trigger ,cause max value could have your signal 'trigger' for current selection (that you are using in back bet conditions) could be = 14 in your set up conditions and trigger times.

And more than that you don't use signal for market that you set up too.

And if you are using signal 'trigger' for market , it could have only 3 possible values -> 1 or 10 or 100 as you set up in conditions.

That's why I think it's something wrong with that .baf file logic.
Can't get my head around the logic. The way Ive set it up I thought it was creating a cumulative score. So adding to the score everytime the signal gets triggered. Because I named every signal 'trigger' I thought it would all get added together


In any case I don't think that would be the best way anyway as with the nuances I would capture horses shortening in price, rather than horses that shorten AND then bounce in and out of the 2.0-2.2 range
jtrader
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Have you tried that .baf in practise mode and check the log then?
Fugazi
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jtrader wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:03 pm
Have you tried that .baf in practise mode and check the log then?
Seems the signal works but it isn't adding the values together as I thought. Maybe I need to store the values

18/11/2024 19:03:52: Market changed to Southwell 18th Nov - 19:15 5f Hcap
18/11/2024 19:05:49: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: trigger = 100
18/11/2024 19:05:49: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for Fortunate Star: trigger = 1
18/11/2024 19:06:08: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: trigger = 100
18/11/2024 19:06:08: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for Fortunate Star: trigger = 2
18/11/2024 19:06:19: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: trigger = 100
18/11/2024 19:06:19: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for Fortunate Star: trigger = 3
18/11/2024 19:06:29: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: trigger = 100
18/11/2024 19:06:29: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for Fortunate Star: trigger = 4
18/11/2024 19:06:45: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: trigger = 100
18/11/2024 19:06:45: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for Fortunate Star: trigger = 5

The way I thought the logic works is that trigger = 500 from the above

But seems actually it just counted each one as a single unit? so the value is now 5?
jtrader
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https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/sig ... 3D&mw=MzIw

Read carefully and you'll understand logic!
Fugazi
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jtrader wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:00 pm
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/sig ... 3D&mw=MzIw

Read carefully and you'll understand logic!
Mmm doesn't seem to explain the function of being able to attribute a value up to 100 for a signal.


I still have the puzzle of how Im going to signal when it enters and then leaves the zone multiple times, as currently it can enter a zone and stay in the zone and still set off a bet..
andy28
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I saw the same video and am thinking the same as you however I will go along the lines of if it moves X amount in 12 minutes (15min-3 mins out) then have another rule like Historic Relative odds condition that the odds at the 3 minute to 2 minutes only move 1-4 ticks for that 60 seconds. My thinking is this means it has hit resistance, and that is when I would lay.

There would be other rules looking at other indicators to confirm the backing has slowed, but that's the gist of my thinking, probably fill of holes but something I will play around with
Fugazi
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andy28 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 3:06 am
I saw the same video and am thinking the same as you however I will go along the lines of if it moves X amount in 12 minutes (15min-3 mins out) then have another rule like Historic Relative odds condition that the odds at the 3 minute to 2 minutes only move 1-4 ticks for that 60 seconds. My thinking is this means it has hit resistance, and that is when I would lay.

There would be other rules looking at other indicators to confirm the backing has slowed, but that's the gist of my thinking, probably fill of holes but something I will play around with
When I trade Forex, the market will bounce off support and resistance rather than hang around it. To be honest I'll probably test both approaches

When it bounces off it tells me theres not enough interest backing at the price. However when it hangs around at a price its 50/50 between backers and layers and may be about to plough through. Once the money is gone at that level, if not many have layed it below then the price tanks. If there is a lot of money laying below then not much happens. It just drops down a tick
Anbell
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Have you tried the AI?
Fugazi
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Anbell wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:03 am
Have you tried the AI?
Yeah love the AI but seems too complex a question for it. Going to have another go tonight see if I can ask it the right questions
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