Auto Trading Including Non Runner %

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charlieton
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Having spoken with support, they suggest I ask here - any help is greatly appreciated!!

Has anyone successfully created a rule to take into account the non runner % when auto trading. If no one has, is this even possible?

Example:

I want to back a horse in a race at a fixed time at fixed odds (lets say 2 minutes before the off at 5.0).

I set this up in excel in the morning and load into Bet Angel and then go off to work - so I can't do any live updates. 10 minutes before the off, there is a 20% non runner (or more than one non runner for a total of 20%).

With 2 minutes to go, the price on Betfair is 4.6 which is below my price, but this is only due to the non runner(s) - in reality the price is 5.75 which is way above my price but Bet Angel and my rules wont back it at 4.6.

I guess there is a way to factor this in, but does anyone know how to do it?

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LinusP
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You could data scrape a web page which has a list of non runners and their respective reduction factor. You can then calc the new odds you require.
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Euler
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Check the runner count?

If a ten runner field and there is only nine then there must be a non runner. Either than or only place bet in a certain odds range.
xitian
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He probably needs the reduction factor to be able to scale his price correctly, or else you'd have to estimate it from the odds prior to being removed.

If you have the knowledge and ability to scrape a website then you may as well use the official means and call the Betfair API directly.

The information you need (removed runner, time removed, factor) will be returned in a call to GetMarketPrices in the current API, or else listMarketBook on the new API-NG.

With the former you'd need to look into how you can make web service calls from Excel. After a quick google, here are some possible starting points:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4749 ... e-in-excel

However I don't know if there's an easier way to get this, i.e. from the BetAngel/Excel interface.
charlieton
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Joined: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:22 pm

Thanks everyone for the replies, looking into them now to see if they will work
jookymundo
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Has there been any update on this using betangel?
Anbell
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jookymundo wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2024 3:05 pm
Has there been any update on this using betangel?
This will get you half way there
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