RANT CORNER

[Derek27]

The delivery concept is good except for the picking of fresh veg and fruit. But yes, why do it yourself when you only need to be at home during the delivery window.

Totally agree, after my first delve into home delivery I decided anything "fresh", including fresh meat, was a no-no. I want to see the product to decide it I like how it looks.

Same here. I reject nine in every ten onions when I'm in the supermarket.

[greenmark]

The delivery concept is good except for the picking of fresh veg and fruit. But yes, why do it yourself when you only need to be at home during the delivery window.

Totally agree, after my first delve into home delivery I decided anything "fresh", including fresh meat, was a no-no. I want to see the product to decide it I like how it looks.

Same here. I reject nine in every ten onions when I'm in the supermarket.

With you both there.Onions etc do get bashed about, that starts the degradation. Caveat emptor applies.
Look at apples, unless they get damaged they keep for yonks. Give 'em a bruise and they need to be used within days.
Apple crumble? But doesn't freeze/defrost so well. Apple sauce would probably freeze/defrost quite well. Cider? But I have no idea how to that.

[Derek27]

Your password must only contain letters and numbers!!

How stupid???

[ForFolksSake]

52 years

Bring back the f***ing death penalty

[firlandsfarm]

52 years

Bring back the f***ing death penalty

Yeah, the taxpayer now has to provide not just board and lodgings for 52+ years but also extra security to protect him from those in prison who totally despise his 'type' ... let's hope the guards drop their protection and leave him exposed for a while.

[jamesedwards]

Not only did Nottingham City Council install this concrete chess table in the middle of a carpark, but they installed it the wrong way around.

[greenmark]

52 years

Bring back the f***ing death penalty

Yeah, the taxpayer now has to provide not just board and lodgings for 52+ years but also extra security to protect him from those in prison who totally despise his 'type' ... let's hope the guards drop their protection and leave him exposed for a while.

How about why did he become so vicious? I don't have that answer. It's beyond me. But I still don't support capital punishment. Pierrepoint described it as "what I have done I have not prevented a single murder". And no more than revenge.

That boy is a nutter. We produced him. We now have to contain him.

[Michael5482]

52 years

Bring back the f***ing death penalty

Yeah, the taxpayer now has to provide not just board and lodgings for 52+ years but also extra security to protect him from those in prison who totally despise his 'type' ... let's hope the guards drop their protection and leave him exposed for a while.

How about why did he become so vicious? I don't have that answer. It's beyond me. But I still don't support capital punishment. Pierrepoint described it as "what I have done I have not prevented a single murder". And no more than revenge.

That boy is a nutter. We produced him. We now have to contain him.

The comments I have seen in relation to capital punishment especially from those who supported assisted dying I find interesting. How can anyone support the state taking the life of an innocent individual with with safeguards but not be in support of the state taking the the life of a guilty individual with safe guards.

Just a general observation.

His parents produced him, they are in it up to their necks especially the father. If you put the lack of parental responsibility with catastrophic state failure we may get somewhere near the truth but I doubt it we'll ever get the full truth, anytime soon. We might do in about 20 years just look at how long it's took for Hillsborough, Infected Blood, Post Office, Grenfell etc etc etc The state don't like accepting responsibility because it costs votes and money.

Look at the Muslim rape gang scandal no national inquiry because it means the state will have to take responsibility and pay compensation. One of the Jay report recommendations called for redress to the victims the Government don't want to know on that one, nothing to see here.

[firlandsfarm]

52 years

Bring back the f***ing death penalty

Yeah, the taxpayer now has to provide not just board and lodgings for 52+ years but also extra security to protect him from those in prison who totally despise his 'type' ... let's hope the guards drop their protection and leave him exposed for a while.

How about why did he become so vicious? I don't have that answer. It's beyond me. But I still don't support capital punishment. Pierrepoint described it as "what I have done I have not prevented a single murder". And no more than revenge.

That boy is a nutter. We produced him. We now have to contain him.

It's impossible for Pierrepoint to know if he prevented any murders ... who knows what his 'victims' may have done if not executed and then released by the Luvvies after 20 years because let's face it murderers are only misunderstood unfortunate members of society.

[greenmark]

Yeah, the taxpayer now has to provide not just board and lodgings for 52+ years but also extra security to protect him from those in prison who totally despise his 'type' ... let's hope the guards drop their protection and leave him exposed for a while.

How about why did he become so vicious? I don't have that answer. It's beyond me. But I still don't support capital punishment. Pierrepoint described it as "what I have done I have not prevented a single murder". And no more than revenge.

That boy is a nutter. We produced him. We now have to contain him.

It's impossible for Pierrepoint to know if he prevented any murders ... who knows what his 'victims' may have done if not executed and then released by the Luvvies after 20 years because let's face it murderers are only misunderstood unfortunate members of society.

The wife of Alan Greaves (who was beaten to death purely at random, no robbery) said of forgiveness
"It sets you free – you lose that hatred, that burden you're carrying.

"I believe not showing forgiveness can do real damage in your life."

[firlandsfarm]

How about why did he become so vicious? I don't have that answer. It's beyond me. But I still don't support capital punishment. Pierrepoint described it as "what I have done I have not prevented a single murder". And no more than revenge.

That boy is a nutter. We produced him. We now have to contain him.

It's impossible for Pierrepoint to know if he prevented any murders ... who knows what his 'victims' may have done if not executed and then released by the Luvvies after 20 years because let's face it murderers are only misunderstood unfortunate members of society.

The wife of Alan Greaves (who was beaten to death purely at random, no robbery) said of forgiveness
"It sets you free – you lose that hatred, that burden you're carrying.

"I believe not showing forgiveness can do real damage in your life."

Doesn't damage my life and the only thing that would set me free would be the popping of the champagne cork. How many did Perrepoint execute? And you found one to quote! Yes some were wrongly executed, and that is sad but is there any doubt over the Southport murders?

[greenmark]

It's impossible for Pierrepoint to know if he prevented any murders ... who knows what his 'victims' may have done if not executed and then released by the Luvvies after 20 years because let's face it murderers are only misunderstood unfortunate members of society.

The wife of Alan Greaves (who was beaten to death purely at random, no robbery) said of forgiveness
"It sets you free – you lose that hatred, that burden you're carrying.

"I believe not showing forgiveness can do real damage in your life."

Doesn't damage my life and the only thing that would set me free would be the popping of the champagne cork. How many did Perrepoint execute? And you found one to quote! Yes some were wrongly executed, and that is sad but is there any doubt over the Southport murders?

Have you lost someone to murder?
I'm not sure how I would react in that scenario.
I fear I would want to get my hands on the perpetrator and throttle them. So I understand the outrage and desire for revenge.
This boy is clearly not all there. He is dangerous and should be locked up for life. But that won't ever bring those kids back and nor would capital punishment.
The issue is why did he do such a terrible thing.
I had the debate about capital punishment with my Mum and she simply said "Would you be able to kill someone that was already in prison?".
And despite my spikey presence on this forum I don't have the correct motivation to be able to take someone's life. So imprisonment is the solution.

[firlandsfarm]

Have you lost someone to murder?
I'm not sure how I would react in that scenario.
I fear I would want to get my hands on the perpetrator and throttle them. So I understand the outrage and desire for revenge.
This boy is clearly not all there. He is dangerous and should be locked up for life. But that won't ever bring those kids back and nor would capital punishment.
The issue is why did he do such a terrible thing.
I had the debate about capital punishment with my Mum and she simply said "Would you be able to kill someone that was already in prison?".
And despite my spikey presence on this forum I don't have the correct motivation to be able to take someone's life. So imprisonment is the solution.

No I have not lost someone to murder. I think the difference between us here is you look upon the sentence as a means to keep society safe whereas I look upon it as punishment for the wrong.

[Michael5482]

Have you lost someone to murder?
I'm not sure how I would react in that scenario.
I fear I would want to get my hands on the perpetrator and throttle them. So I understand the outrage and desire for revenge.
This boy is clearly not all there. He is dangerous and should be locked up for life. But that won't ever bring those kids back and nor would capital punishment.
The issue is why did he do such a terrible thing.
I had the debate about capital punishment with my Mum and she simply said "Would you be able to kill someone that was already in prison?".
And despite my spikey presence on this forum I don't have the correct motivation to be able to take someone's life. So imprisonment is the solution.

No I have not lost someone to murder. I think the difference between us here is you look upon the sentence as a means to keep society safe whereas I look upon it as punishment for the wrong.

Prison sentencing was originally brought in to shame the criminal and deter other criminals but sentences are now that lenient they no longer act as a deterrent and people don't see them as such especially when you're out after serving 40% of your sentence. Similar to the police they were set up as a crime prevention force, this worked but now they sit around getting fat waiting for crime to happen which doesn't work.

The full system is completely backwards. If you want to get back to what prison should be then sentences should reflect the crime and the death penalty is the ultimate deterrent. I also believe in rehabilitation but some crimes are that heinous that capital punishment should to be on the table.

As I said earlier if the state can take a life of an innocent person with assisted dying there should be no hesitation the state taking the life of a guilty individual especially those who take the life of another.

[firlandsfarm]

Prison sentencing was originally brought in to shame the criminal and deter other criminals but sentences are now that lenient they no longer act as a deterrent and people don't see them as such especially when you're out after serving 40% of your sentence. Similar to the police they were set up as a crime prevention force, this worked but now they sit around getting fat waiting for crime to happen which doesn't work.

The full system is completely backwards. If you want to get back to what prison should be then sentences should reflect the crime and the death penalty is the ultimate deterrent. I also believe in rehabilitation but some crimes are that heinous that capital punishment should to be on the table.

As I said earlier if the state can take a life of an innocent person with assisted dying there should be no hesitation the state taking the life of a guilty individual especially those who take the life of another.

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