This bot can be used on any types of markets, including a mixture of different sports
The purpose of the bot is to back your nominated selections starting with 10% of your bank, if your first selection wins the initial stake used is returned.
The profits from that first bet will then be used a the stake for your nominated selection on the next market, if that bet also wins the profits will be added to those from your first bet and this then used as the stake for your nominated selection on the next market - and so on...
So if your first bet is successful you won't be able to lose as your stake is returned and you are now just using the profits for your acca
For example, if your Betfair balance was £300, the first market the bot triggers on will place a £30 bet, if you were to win £85 in that market it will then take out your original £30 stake and place a bet of £85 on the next market, if that wins £160 the stake for the next bet will be £245 (85 + 160) and so on
The file can used on markets from multiple sports at the same time, so your first bet might be a horse running in the 14:30 at Kempton, the second bet on Under 2.5 in a football fixture that KO's at 15:00, the third bet on another horse race starting at 18:10 and so on.... Its entirely up to you.
The only thing you must take into account though is the previous market must have finished and the bet settled by Betfair for the stake to be calculated ready for the next bet the next can be placed, so you need to ensure you leave sufficient time between each market you are betting on.
If at anytime you want to take your profits and run you can do this just by removing the automation file from any remaining markets or deselecting your remaining selections
Using the Bot
Once you've added your markets to Guardian and applied the bot to those you want to place your accumulator on all you then need to do is choose the selections it is to trigger on in your Guardian Nominated 1 column as shown in the image below
How it Works
Once you have it imported into your Guardian you can edit those (or any other parts of the file) anyway you want or remove them and add your own rules to use the recent form very easily by clicking on "Edit Rules File".
Please refer to the 'Note' tab for a more detailed explanation on how each rule works and how it may be connected/linked to other rules within the file
Downloading and Importing the Files
To use the file just click on the 'Back Bet Profit Acca'.baf' link below and that will download it to your computer, then with guardian open on the "Automation" tab click on a rules file as shown in the image, once imported it will now appear in the pick list area just above, you can now apply it to any markets you have added into guardian.
To see a video tutorial on how to download and import an automation file into your Bet Angel please see this link
Bet Angel Back Bet Profit Acca - Guardian Automation Bot
If that's the only change you've made it should still of worked
Was there any error messages in the log?
I tried again today and it worked. I noticed today it stated the stored values in the log, whereas it didn't the previous time.
Is there a way of doing two separate accas in the same guardian session? For example, if I wanted to do one acca for the afternoon darts session and then another for the evening session. Or would it simply carry on with one acca until I restart Bet Angel and clear the stored values?
Thanks for this bot, it seems to be working really well.
On the Stored Value tab for each rule at the bottom of each stored value there is a box which you can tick/untick depending if you want that particular stored value written to the logTJSN1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:59 pmI tried again today and it worked. I noticed today it stated the stored values in the log, whereas it didn't the previous time.
Is there a way of doing two separate accas in the same guardian session? For example, if I wanted to do one acca for the afternoon darts session and then another for the evening session. Or would it simply carry on with one acca until I restart Bet Angel and clear the stored values?
Thanks for this bot, it seems to be working really well.
Its hand when setting up files and for debugging purposes, but you know its working fine you can untick these if you want to keep your log tidier
To start another acca you'd need to trigger a 'Clear Stored Value' rule to reset everything and start again with a new opening balance
The best way to do this is to create another automation file with just that 'Clear Stored Value rule' and arm it 5 secs before the start time
Then apply that to a market which is between your last afternoon market and before your evening one is due to begin
It doesn't have to be from the same event, ie, you could just add a greyhound racing market that starts at 17:44 then apply it to that
Hi Dallas,
This is a great file.
I have tried to modify it for it to work on the favourite in the Place Market for greyhounds but it doesn't appear to be working.
I gave also added in a fix order (as I am putting the back bet in 10 seconds before the off and I want it to continue to work on the backed fave after the matched bet)
I have also put something in to stop if it loses on the first bet (as it does on any bet)
I can't fathom where it is going wrong to be honest, I shall keep staring at it, but could you take a look at it if you get any time?
Thank you if you can:
This is a great file.
I have tried to modify it for it to work on the favourite in the Place Market for greyhounds but it doesn't appear to be working.
I gave also added in a fix order (as I am putting the back bet in 10 seconds before the off and I want it to continue to work on the backed fave after the matched bet)
I have also put something in to stop if it loses on the first bet (as it does on any bet)
I can't fathom where it is going wrong to be honest, I shall keep staring at it, but could you take a look at it if you get any time?
Thank you if you can:
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- ShaunWhite
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I'd be slightly wary of such an aggressive staking strategy, afterall it's not an 'acca' just a series of bets. The reason I say that is that firms run algos to identify potentially problematic betting patterns. If it's a new behaviour it can be interpreted as chasing big wins in the same way a Martingale might be chasing loses. Especially so if you don't have a profitable history.
Obv speculation but in the current climate all risk is worth considering. If you often have £100 bets then it's probably asb fine but if it's usually a £1 and you start rollings wins forward then maybe it's not so clear cut.
Obv speculation but in the current climate all risk is worth considering. If you often have £100 bets then it's probably asb fine but if it's usually a £1 and you start rollings wins forward then maybe it's not so clear cut.
Hi Dallas, I'm having a problem with the bot, it is not starting with a low back bet and then staking more as they win. It is staking my whole balance and if it doesn't win I lose my whole bank.Dallas wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:15 pmThis bot can be used on any types of markets, including a mixture of different sports
The purpose of the bot is to back your nominated selections starting with 10% of your bank, if your first selection wins the initial stake used is returned.
The profits from that first bet will then be used a the stake for your nominated selection on the next market, if that bet also wins the profits will be added to those from your first bet and this then used as the stake for your nominated selection on the next market - and so on...
So if your first bet is successful you won't be able to lose as your stake is returned and you are now just using the profits for your acca
For example, if your Betfair balance was £300, the first market the bot triggers on will place a £30 bet, if you were to win £85 in that market it will then take out your original £30 stake and place a bet of £85 on the next market, if that wins £160 the stake for the next bet will be £245 (85 + 160) and so on
The file can used on markets from multiple sports at the same time, so your first bet might be a horse running in the 14:30 at Kempton, the second bet on Under 2.5 in a football fixture that KO's at 15:00, the third bet on another horse race starting at 18:10 and so on.... Its entirely up to you.
The only thing you must take into account though is the previous market must have finished and the bet settled by Betfair for the stake to be calculated ready for the next bet the next can be placed, so you need to ensure you leave sufficient time between each market you are betting on.
If at anytime you want to take your profits and run you can do this just by removing the automation file from any remaining markets or deselecting your remaining selections
Using the Bot
Once you've added your markets to Guardian and applied the bot to those you want to place your accumulator on all you then need to do is choose the selections it is to trigger on in your Guardian Nominated 1 column as shown in the image below
Back Bet Profit Acca.png
How it Works
Once you have it imported into your Guardian you can edit those (or any other parts of the file) anyway you want or remove them and add your own rules to use the recent form very easily by clicking on "Edit Rules File".
Please refer to the 'Note' tab for a more detailed explanation on how each rule works and how it may be connected/linked to other rules within the file
Notes.JPG
Downloading and Importing the Files
To use the file just click on the 'Back Bet Profit Acca'.baf' link below and that will download it to your computer, then with guardian open on the "Automation" tab click on a rules file as shown in the image, once imported it will now appear in the pick list area just above, you can now apply it to any markets you have added into guardian.
To see a video tutorial on how to download and import an automation file into your Bet Angel please see this link
I also have tried chaging best price to fixed odds and then using a stored value 'the market must be in play' and the last traded price is under whatever i want but the bot stops working. Even with no changes it wont trigger. It used to work perfectly for me a year ago.
Really not sure why it's using my whole balance. Also the acc stake and beginning stake are both set to 90%, shouldnt acc stake be 10% or not even there at all?
I'm not sure whats going on with betangel lately, nothing seems to trigger.
Any advice please?
Thanks
Lee
It initially stores your account balance minus 90% leaving 10% as your beginning stakeV1bzz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:18 amHi Dallas, I'm having a problem with the bot, it is not starting with a low back bet and then staking more as they win. It is staking my whole balance and if it doesn't win I lose my whole bank.Dallas wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:15 pmThis bot can be used on any types of markets, including a mixture of different sports
The purpose of the bot is to back your nominated selections starting with 10% of your bank, if your first selection wins the initial stake used is returned.
The profits from that first bet will then be used a the stake for your nominated selection on the next market, if that bet also wins the profits will be added to those from your first bet and this then used as the stake for your nominated selection on the next market - and so on...
So if your first bet is successful you won't be able to lose as your stake is returned and you are now just using the profits for your acca
For example, if your Betfair balance was £300, the first market the bot triggers on will place a £30 bet, if you were to win £85 in that market it will then take out your original £30 stake and place a bet of £85 on the next market, if that wins £160 the stake for the next bet will be £245 (85 + 160) and so on
The file can used on markets from multiple sports at the same time, so your first bet might be a horse running in the 14:30 at Kempton, the second bet on Under 2.5 in a football fixture that KO's at 15:00, the third bet on another horse race starting at 18:10 and so on.... Its entirely up to you.
The only thing you must take into account though is the previous market must have finished and the bet settled by Betfair for the stake to be calculated ready for the next bet the next can be placed, so you need to ensure you leave sufficient time between each market you are betting on.
If at anytime you want to take your profits and run you can do this just by removing the automation file from any remaining markets or deselecting your remaining selections
Using the Bot
Once you've added your markets to Guardian and applied the bot to those you want to place your accumulator on all you then need to do is choose the selections it is to trigger on in your Guardian Nominated 1 column as shown in the image below
Back Bet Profit Acca.png
How it Works
Once you have it imported into your Guardian you can edit those (or any other parts of the file) anyway you want or remove them and add your own rules to use the recent form very easily by clicking on "Edit Rules File".
Please refer to the 'Note' tab for a more detailed explanation on how each rule works and how it may be connected/linked to other rules within the file
Notes.JPG
Downloading and Importing the Files
To use the file just click on the 'Back Bet Profit Acca'.baf' link below and that will download it to your computer, then with guardian open on the "Automation" tab click on a rules file as shown in the image, once imported it will now appear in the pick list area just above, you can now apply it to any markets you have added into guardian.
To see a video tutorial on how to download and import an automation file into your Bet Angel please see this link
I also have tried chaging best price to fixed odds and then using a stored value 'the market must be in play' and the last traded price is under whatever i want but the bot stops working. Even with no changes it wont trigger. It used to work perfectly for me a year ago.
Really not sure why it's using my whole balance. Also the acc stake and beginning stake are both set to 90%, shouldnt acc stake be 10% or not even there at all?
I'm not sure whats going on with betangel lately, nothing seems to trigger.
Any advice please?
Thanks
Lee
All the values it stores ie, your balance, minus the 90% then the beginning stake then the profit from each market and next stake to be used etc are all recorded in the log for each market
So it its easy to check exactly what each rule is doing and when (or not)
Its impossible to say what settings you are using now/changed within your Bet Angel profile you are using without seeing a number of screenshots but as you seem to be having trouble with all your automation rules its sounds like you've changed something in guardian perhaps the restricted refresh time or refresh rate
hi
The profits from that first bet will then be used a the stake for your nominated selection on the next market, if that bet also wins the profits will be added to those from your first bet and this then used as the stake for your nominated selection on the next market - and so on...
if second is lost ,how will to do ? Acca - Guardian ,how to fellw the rule
The profits from that first bet will then be used a the stake for your nominated selection on the next market, if that bet also wins the profits will be added to those from your first bet and this then used as the stake for your nominated selection on the next market - and so on...
if second is lost ,how will to do ? Acca - Guardian ,how to fellw the rule
If your first bet loses no further bets will be placed as your stake (held by the SV will be a negative value)zhujunrun wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 10:26 pmhi
The profits from that first bet will then be used a the stake for your nominated selection on the next market, if that bet also wins the profits will be added to those from your first bet and this then used as the stake for your nominated selection on the next market - and so on...
if second is lost ,how will to do ? Acca - Guardian ,how to fellw the rule
- ShaunWhite
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The logical fallacy with this type of accumulator (and one that bookies exploit relentlessly) is that 2nd or subsequent bets which lose haven't cost you anything. The reality is that 'profits' which are staked are actual cash money in your account. Just because the events are on the same day doesn't make it any different to them being on different days or months. It's unlikely that anyone winning £100 today would be quite so blasé about just lumping it all on something next week because it's 'free money' .
The psychological trap is temporal compression, ie treating multiple sequential bets as a single flow rather than discrete, independent decisions. And that's also an issue trading generally due to the widespread over emphasis on market totals rather than process totals.
These kinds of bets are fine for fun, but if you’re trying to make money long term, they’re not a serious approach.
The psychological trap is temporal compression, ie treating multiple sequential bets as a single flow rather than discrete, independent decisions. And that's also an issue trading generally due to the widespread over emphasis on market totals rather than process totals.
These kinds of bets are fine for fun, but if you’re trying to make money long term, they’re not a serious approach.