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jamesedwards
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Naffman wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 2:43 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 2:13 pm
Naffman wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 2:04 pm
Is it taken out Monday mid day?
5pm ish
Thanks
Earlier today. Left my account @ 14:48
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jamesedwards
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I noticed a small bug on the new EF page:

The sums of "commission paid" for 52wks, "expert fees paid" for 52wks, and "commission paid" for lifetime are correct up to and including the end of the week just ended. But "expert fees paid" for lifetime does not include the fee for the previous week. eg today my lifetime EF total does not include the value of the charge to be taken today.

Can anyone else corroborate this?
mathsnerd
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jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:29 pm
I noticed a small bug on the new EF page:

The sums of "commission paid" for 52wks, "expert fees paid" for 52wks, and "commission paid" for lifetime are correct up to and including the end of the week just ended. But "expert fees paid" for lifetime does not include the fee for the previous week. eg today my lifetime EF total does not include the value of the charge to be taken today.

Can anyone else corroborate this?
Absolutely. First week live I thought it odd that my lifetime fees were less than those over the last 52 weeks.
mathsnerd
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jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:29 pm
I noticed a small bug on the new EF page:

The sums of "commission paid" for 52wks, "expert fees paid" for 52wks, and "commission paid" for lifetime are correct up to and including the end of the week just ended. But "expert fees paid" for lifetime does not include the fee for the previous week. eg today my lifetime EF total does not include the value of the charge to be taken today.

Can anyone else corroborate this?
Actually mine is a bit more odd. Lifetime fees ARE lower than last 52 week fees, but the difference between the 2 doesn't relate to any of the weekly amounts. Lifetime is just over 1600 quid lower than last 52 weeks which makes little sense. First week of expert fee I had a losing week though so maybe the rebait/buffer is part of the bug.
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mathsnerd wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:57 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:29 pm
I noticed a small bug on the new EF page:

The sums of "commission paid" for 52wks, "expert fees paid" for 52wks, and "commission paid" for lifetime are correct up to and including the end of the week just ended. But "expert fees paid" for lifetime does not include the fee for the previous week. eg today my lifetime EF total does not include the value of the charge to be taken today.

Can anyone else corroborate this?
Actually mine is a bit more odd. Lifetime fees ARE lower than last 52 week fees, but the difference between the 2 doesn't relate to any of the weekly amounts. Lifetime is just over 1600 quid lower than last 52 weeks which makes little sense. First week of expert fee I had a losing week though so maybe the rebait/buffer is part of the bug.
Perhaps the difference is the £1k allowance and/or the value of your first due payment which gets wavered, My lifetime figure does not include either of these.
WHYME?
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Where/How do I access my "Lifetime" records?
WHYME?
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Is the expert fee actionable on the whole amount or just in levels?
For instance

Is it 0-25000.00=0% payable
25001-99999.00 20% payable on all amounts
OR
0-25000,00 =0% payable
25001-99999.00 = 20% payable on just the 75000.00
Thanks.
golfgolfgolf
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Does anyone know if there >100 markets is markets of the same type or separate matches/tournaments?

For example, betting on the win market in the PGA tour event then betting the win market in the Euro tour event counts as one or two markets?
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golfgolfgolf wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:30 am
Does anyone know if there >100 markets is markets of the same type or separate matches/tournaments?

For example, betting on the win market in the PGA tour event then betting the win market in the Euro tour event counts as one or two markets?
Two. It's the number of unique marketId's
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:24 pm
golfgolfgolf wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:30 am
Does anyone know if there >100 markets is markets of the same type or separate matches/tournaments?

For example, betting on the win market in the PGA tour event then betting the win market in the Euro tour event counts as one or two markets?
Two. It's the number of unique marketId's
Thanks
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jamesedwards
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WHYME? wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:38 pm
Is the expert fee actionable on the whole amount or just in levels?
For instance

Is it 0-25000.00=0% payable
25001-99999.00 20% payable on all amounts
OR
0-25000,00 =0% payable
25001-99999.00 = 20% payable on just the 75000.00
Thanks.
Whole amount I'm afraid. Makes no sense as someone earning £130k and paying 40% makes less profit than someone making £99k who pays 20%.
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Naffman
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Still not really sure how the buffer is working, paid EF (PC) last week so was back to having no buffer, lost this week but my buffer now for next week is about £1300 higher than my loss + commission, obviously not complaining but just don’t get it.
deestar
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Hi all, I'm getting a 404 error on the Expert fee page this morning. Anyone else with this problem?
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jamesedwards
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deestar wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:46 am
Hi all, I'm getting a 404 error on the Expert fee page this morning. Anyone else with this problem?
Thanks
It was working but not updated this morning at 8am. Looks like they're having trouble with it.
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Euler
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deestar wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:46 am
Hi all, I'm getting a 404 error on the Expert fee page this morning. Anyone else with this problem?
Thanks
Came online just after 9am for me
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