Quite a technical one for me

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eatyourgreens wrote:
Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:47 pm
whatever u r trying to do probably can be done using signals, but a back or lay wont fire if it needs a stored value to be set and you are not storing any sv's...........maybe on the conditions you meant to use " signal set" and not "store value set" ? ?

Also, I think I noticed a "clear signal" rule if >3 I dont think your signal will ever get to 3 because you are only ever setting a value of 1, did you mean to use "incriment value" ?

I have not used signals much so a bit unsure about them, ......hope my tiny bit of knowledge helps! I am sure those much wiser than me will soon guide you :-)
Good work EYG, that may be a reason why they're not firing. I think they'll be fine on the signal side of things. will fix the incremental signal now and then see whats next action is
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Why are you fixing the order of fav 4 secs after it goes in-play?

Why are you setting signals that trigger nothing except another signal?

How are LS1S, LS2S, BS1S, or BS2S ever going to reach the >3 conditions?

BSX and LSX are signals and you're trying to refer to them as SVs in some of your trade trigger lines.

Personally I would stick to using stored values because they are much more flexible and you can store and adjust as many values as you like on one line whereas you are stuck with just one signal.
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good luck!
...........and you can even spell increment better than me! :roll:
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You may be better off explaining what it is you’re try to achieve.
That file is all over the place and You’re very much doing it the hard way.
Id agree with James forget signals and just work with SVs.
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eatyourgreens wrote:
Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:03 pm
good luck!
...........and you can even spell increment better than me! :roll:
aha, could be worse, could get all your code muddled up... SV condition set now removed and signal condition added in. thanks for your eyes dude :D

Gana run it on US market now.. ill take ur good luck wishes!
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Dabbla wrote:
Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:15 pm
You may be better off explaining what it is you’re try to achieve.
That file is all over the place and You’re very much doing it the hard way.
Id agree with James forget signals and just work with SVs.
Itshould be now able to work. Signals re fine for what this is aiming to achieve. probaly wont make profit like the other 30 bots but, fingers crossed...

Time to dream about Scenarios now an how to take advantage of them... :twisted:
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Wahoo it works, bring on tomorrow! :twisted:
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First results look strong, Picked out 1st, 2nd, 3rd :P just 10p'ing it for now
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Also Spike bot fired which was nice too on 5p currently. Had an idea to reverse engineer the Delay and allow a mechanism to get in there faster even when it shouldn't. Pulled in a hedge resultant too on the spike bot which then hedged the field. May call it quits now, as it always goes well at the start and then just begins to break down :lol:
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Bear in mind that betting sub min means you're close to 3s before your order hits the market, 2x bet delays, 2 x placement latency, and addition order adjustment transaction (one of the slower Betfair ops). You won't be 'fast' until you get to a minimum size stake.

But #1 Don't judge the outcome until it's done at least 2 or 3 hundred races, even great strategies have periods of drawdown and poor ones have periods of over performing.
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Cool facts there Shaun, so if I go up in steak size to say 5£ then I'll have a priority for speed?
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:22 pm
Bear in mind that betting sub min means you're close to 3s before your order hits the market, 2x bet delays, 2 x placement latency, and addition order adjustment transaction (one of the slower Betfair ops). You won't be 'fast' until you get to a minimum size stake.
This isn't true anymore. Trades under £1 go straight in.
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Basically the 1 second to now is too slow, so I've thought of a way round it where its probably more like 0.5 when the bet gets placed. maybe even faster to 20ms
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jamesedwards wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:25 pm
ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:22 pm
Bear in mind that betting sub min means you're close to 3s before your order hits the market, 2x bet delays, 2 x placement latency, and addition order adjustment transaction (one of the slower Betfair ops). You won't be 'fast' until you get to a minimum size stake.
This isn't true anymore. Trades under £1 go straight in.
well thats good to know at least
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.... You said you were getting quite technical..... Well the lingo can alter that perspective too, in data modelling using AND & OR with signals is called a 'Consensus framework' That's fancy eh! 8-)

I asked gpt to give you an example of a consensus framework (aka 'ensemble model') relating to Betfair markets....
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