Some one able to help with this?

[Emtaxx]

Hi all,

Can someone explain why this is happening? I'd have thought (but would like someone to confirm) that my bot is being triggered by a very minimal amount i.e. 0.03p BUT its not big enough amount to create a volume column.

The picture attached shows where the traded volume has been, however for my bot to trigger the price as specified in the conditions must first be below odds of 2.0.

These prices are no where near 2.0, So I can only think that a very small amount is being sent below 2.0 but not enough to build a column - Even the graph doesn't show this, so just hoping someone can share there knowledge on this coz at this point in time it like trying to catch a bloody ghost..

[Emtaxx]

I think I should add a condition where X amount must be traded below A certain odd(s) but I can't seem to see a condition that would do that hmm

[Dallas]

There needs to be over £100 traded at a price for it to register in the traded volume column

You would use a Stored Value condition to test the volume traded at a price/s
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/stored_value.html

[Emtaxx]

There needs to be over £100 traded at a price for it to register in the traded volume column

You would use a Stored Value condition to test the volume traded at a price/s
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/stored_value.html

I suspected this may be the case, thanks for confirming. I'll take a look and see what I can do thx

[Emtaxx]

Sorry to be petty much. But can someone just confirm that this is correct, (Ideally I'd have liked greater than X amount under price of 2's, however it doesn't look like that's feature, so I'd have to create another 99 SV of this to created separate pricings i.e. 1.99, 1.98, 1.97 etc as I don't know what volume will land where. But also adding in multiples of SV's also slows it down triggering? Anyway I think it reads right. thx

[Dallas]

You don't need to store it first just add as a condition

SV.jpg

You'll need one for every price


Also you'd need to be doing 100s and 100s of calculations with SV's across dozens of rules before you'd even come close to noticing any difference

[Emtaxx]

Awesome, Just what I was after. Thanks Dallas great feature.

On the UK markets this isn't a problem, its just the AUS markets really as less liquidity/solidity

[Dallas]

Awesome, Just what I was after. Thanks Dallas great feature.

On the UK markets this isn't a problem, its just the AUS markets really as less liquidity/solidity

[Emtaxx]

Bloody hell, I sware everything I try the complete opposite happens. May as well turn them into Lay bets the'yre so consistant.

But as soon as I turn them to lay bets I bet a 1000 Odds goes on to win

[ShaunWhite]

Bloody hell, I sware everything I try the complete opposite happens.

2 possible reasons.
1. You haven't got an edge and you're just seeing the usual market randomness and variation.
2. You have got an edge and you're not leaving it long enough to get through the usual randomness and variation.

[Emtaxx]

Yeah tbf … with how many reds it is sequentially
Im tempted to say it doesn’t work lol. Or needs altering to make it work. For now I’ve set it to lay bets on the US and AUS markets and now I’m having sequential wins lol.

But yeah you’re right. I’ve only got 20£ in my bank and work with pennies now to prove out the work first, so even a 1000 was to happen. My account. Wouldn’t let me place a bet on that liability anyway

[Emtaxx]

Yeah the big losses guzzle the balance it seems ... That's another Idea Crossed out !

[ShaunWhite]

But yeah you’re right. I’ve only got 20£ in my bank

I wouldn't normally recommend practice mode but it might weed out the absolute non starters.

But trialing a strategy is a bet, like by buying a lottery ticket. You pays your money and see how it goes, not really expecting much.

The danger when you're too precious about the money is not giving things a fair crack of the whip, although you can use some fairly basic rule of thumb. Treat you're results as if they were a acca, when you get you iro 100 or 200/1 that you're seeing that pl, then there's a good chance it's not random.

But you can learn a lot of things from a live trial that fails and it's what you've bought for the cash you've invested. Download your bet history and put in a running total and make a line chart of it. . Now sort it by anything apart from date. If you do it by price (or side or size matched) and than look at your PL chart. You'll see that some ranges are better than others. Exclude the losers and run it again. If you have something than it will improve. If not then it's just random so bin it.

[Emtaxx]

Added in some further steps now which has safe gaurded it from not doing silly things when firing when it shouldnt, so that helps.

Bit better today due to this. I've also set one up similar to the us markets too, again end of race spike bot, so will see how that perfroms tonight.

And yes, I've spent enough of my money to realise its about turning over pennies before pounds, so I only test with pennies atm as I'm a few 250£ down atm, but thats okay. I make up for it and put aside some OT when I can and use it to reinvest, never from my actualy NET. but Its pennies atm until theorm works. and you have to use real money as fake money just gets matched instantly it doesnt actually give a realistic approach

[ShaunWhite]

and you have to use real money as fake money just gets matched instantly it doesnt actually give a realistic approach

That's the case if you're staking £100 and it only takes £1 to go through your price, but betting pennies if the price is touched you probably got it all filled. It's not accurate but a day or two tells you if it's worth spending money on or a complete non-starter.