Smart Bash - did anyone go?
Only thing that would've interested me is the social side but I'm not willing to pay £400 for the privilege plus the travel/accommodation.
Smart Bash
The images from the event seemed to imply that lots agreed with you. Planning it in the middle of Wimbledon and on British Grand Prix weekend, obviously wasn't a hit.
I've had the occasional dialogue with the organisers, and would have attended if asked (and on better dates). But invites are thin on the ground it seems for the likes of people like me.
As the trading and serious betting community is so poorly served, I'm starting to think I should do something about it.
I've had the occasional dialogue with the organisers, and would have attended if asked (and on better dates). But invites are thin on the ground it seems for the likes of people like me.
As the trading and serious betting community is so poorly served, I'm starting to think I should do something about it.
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ShaunWhite
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This sort of thing is usually just a circle jerk.
I'd be up for a social event, though, a chance to mingle. Get a sponsor or two to help fund it.
I think the problem with a lot of events that promise to offer insight in return for cash, is that they rarely hit the mark.
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ruthlessimon
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I imagine it was pretty surface-level stuff tbh - property seminar vibes.
Take Tom Dry. Did he get into the nitty-gritty of how he built his tennis model? Probably not. More likely he focused on the wonders of psychology (which, he did (I promise I didn’t peek first)
The reality is guys like him are only useful in a 1-on-1; assuming his backers even allow it. What I want to hear is: how he thinks about edge development, how the market has evolved since he started, how he adapts - not how he handles nerves when laying Raducanu.
Honestly, forums like this are seriously underrated for building real connections. There's no need for pricey events. I’d much rather a solid DM convo with someone serious than pay £400 for a ticket and hope I get lucky with a chat in the hotel bar.
Take Tom Dry. Did he get into the nitty-gritty of how he built his tennis model? Probably not. More likely he focused on the wonders of psychology (which, he did (I promise I didn’t peek first)
The reality is guys like him are only useful in a 1-on-1; assuming his backers even allow it. What I want to hear is: how he thinks about edge development, how the market has evolved since he started, how he adapts - not how he handles nerves when laying Raducanu.
Honestly, forums like this are seriously underrated for building real connections. There's no need for pricey events. I’d much rather a solid DM convo with someone serious than pay £400 for a ticket and hope I get lucky with a chat in the hotel bar.
From what I can gather about the event, the 2 main gripes I have are:
Mostly seems to be about how you can keep your bookie acct open for longer - I’m sorry but just open an exchange acct if you have an edge
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Why would anyone give anyway any info that could cost them money long-term? I highly doubt the speakers fee was that big. Call me cynical but if I were invited to speak I’d almost push people down the wrong path
you really think that when you’ve given someone some gold for free that they’re going to even thank you when they’ve made stacks off it.
Mostly seems to be about how you can keep your bookie acct open for longer - I’m sorry but just open an exchange acct if you have an edge
and
Why would anyone give anyway any info that could cost them money long-term? I highly doubt the speakers fee was that big. Call me cynical but if I were invited to speak I’d almost push people down the wrong path
you really think that when you’ve given someone some gold for free that they’re going to even thank you when they’ve made stacks off it.The problem with that is that most of the edges found at bookies are using exchange odds as a reference point, or to hedge a position. For example, winning on each way horse or golf betting is a piece of cake when you simply compare the bookie odds with Betfair's, and there's a plethora of tools out there that will do the calculations for you.
Then there are free bets, extra places, 2-ups etc which are bookie concessions that are easy to exploit for profit.
These edges don't translate to exchange betting where, as we all know, finding an edge is way more challenging.
It's relatively easy to find an edge with a soft book, but it's totally not scable as they don't want winners and you end up in battle for pittance. Soft books have loose pricing and that it makes it easy to pick off opportunities. They just want to get people through the door, but also don't want people systematically exploiting that pricing.
But, because it's an easy few quid people love this sort of stuff. But it's not serious betting IMHO.
That's what its harder to find an edge on the exchanges. Becuase if you do it's a gold mine, a life changer.
But, because it's an easy few quid people love this sort of stuff. But it's not serious betting IMHO.
That's what its harder to find an edge on the exchanges. Becuase if you do it's a gold mine, a life changer.