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Euler
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Sounds like OpenAI are going to announce version 5 tonight at 6pm UK time.
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Kai
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Not expecting any revolutionary new features but should be a noticeable overall improvement for our particular niches and use cases etc

Less hallucinations and persistent memory would be quite nice for starters
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Euler
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Kai wrote:
Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:33 pm
Not expecting any revolutionary new features but should be a noticeable overall improvement for our particular niches and use cases etc

Less hallucinations and persistent memory would be quite nice for starters
You can get it to remember prior conversations already and use specific memories. As I have been using it for ages it responds well now to a lot of the stuff I ask it. It 'senses' what I mean and gives an appropiate response.
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Kai
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I agree for the most part, it's already become an invaluable daily assistant for me

But it can only "remember" so much and seems to struggle over long contexts/chats

5.0 is supposed to feature an actual persistent long term memory so hopefully that really is the case
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Euler
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Y, I agree, I know what you mean.

It drifts over a more extended period, so it loses its way and starts acting tangentially. So I tend to work in chunks with it and join those chunks together.
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ShaunWhite
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It only used to keep 100 'memories' but you could edit them to make better use of the space. Definitely needs better context memory, if you're doing a big complex project and reach max thread length as I often do it's hard to carry all the details to a new thread.

Also on my wish list is to stop being so sycophantic and/or to develop the capacity to say 'I don't know'.

Oh good.. .
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I've just used this as my first ever foray into GPT. Feck me - it's astonishing. In 5 minutes it's given me a way of doing Excel stuff that would take me probably months to implement myself.

I just might have to review my hitherto negative view on AI. But jobs will undoubtedly be lost, and it does still talk a lot of shite when used in areas of life which are not as objective as writing software code.
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Euler
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It's given me a bit of a renaissance in my trading. I can create very complex things really quickly, but can also research things beyond PhD level, taking stuff from very complex academic papers and putting them in action. It's given me a whole new playground to frolic in.
Emtaxx
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I'm glad they've updated the memory side of a conversation. I paid for the full and even then it can be flakey, I have to then confirm it with deep seek. so hopefully its now able to overcome flow lwevels of conversation and stop forgetting/relaying topics after a topics.. sounds good though. I did get a refund back after 3 days of chat gpt as it kept taking me wrong directions... But it amazes me what you boomer generations use to do to create advance trading stuff without this type of aid probably books! :D
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Emtaxx wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:16 am
. But it amazes me what you boomer generations use to do to create advance trading stuff without this type of aid probably books! :D
Be careful what you wish for

...AI is on the verge of slashing up to 50% of entry-level white-collar jobs, leaving youth stranded.

... AGI ☣️
bobalski
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I know absolutely zero about ChatGPT, but realise I'm missing out on some cool shit.

Any tips on beginner tutorials on YouTube or on the www?
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Euler wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:03 am
It's given me a bit of a renaissance in my trading.
Ditto, I'd done very little for about 18 months, and in the last few 6 weeks I've written a whole new subsystem to integrate TFT modelling, next step is daily automated retraining and deployment. Must have opened up at least a year's worth of new work. All came from a simple question about how to get more value out of 7TB of tick data.
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bobalski wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 10:03 am
I know absolutely zero about ChatGPT, but realise I'm missing out on some cool shit.

Any tips on beginner tutorials on YouTube or on the www?
Just talk to it.

But its far better at 'teach me how' than 'do this for me', and remain sceptical about the responses esp with Betfair strategy as it's naive, sometimes suggesting complete bollocks. It's still very much augmented intelligence rather than a replacement for it so stay sharp.
Emtaxx
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 10:05 am
Euler wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:03 am
It's given me a bit of a renaissance in my trading.
Ditto, I'd done very little for about 18 months, and in the last few 6 weeks I've written a whole new subsystem to integrate TFT modelling, next step is daily automated retraining and deployment. Must have opened up at least a year's worth of new work. All came from a simple question about how to get more value out of 7TB of tick data.
7TB of data a tick. Shaun why are you building a bomb
Emtaxx
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ForFolksSake wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 9:34 am
Emtaxx wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:16 am
. But it amazes me what you boomer generations use to do to create advance trading stuff without this type of aid probably books! :D
Be careful what you wish for

...AI is on the verge of slashing up to 50% of entry-level white-collar jobs, leaving youth stranded.

... AGI ☣️
Yeah, best become a plasterer on the side in that case !
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