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Emtaxx
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Hi guys...

Got an interesting one for you... I've been running Bet angel with one of my bots in live mode on my laptop and then running another bet angel in on my pc so I can tweek things accordingly. and watch etc.

However, I'm noticing even though my bots are exactly the same, there a discrepency in where my latop top and PC place more trades than the other does!? I've just synced the clocks on both machines so they now read the same time. I've set my refresh intervals within bet angel in the markets on both machines for simplicty to refresh every 1 second. however theres still a discrepency... Has anyone seen this before and has any top tips they can give me to phase this out. its really annoying :? :? :? :? :?
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jamesedwards
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Emtaxx wrote:
Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:15 pm
Hi guys...

Got an interesting one for you... I've been running Bet angel with one of my bots in live mode on my laptop and then running another bet angel in on my pc so I can tweek things accordingly. and watch etc.

However, I'm noticing even though my bots are exactly the same, there a discrepency in where my latop top and PC place more trades than the other does!? I've just synced the clocks on both machines so they now read the same time. I've set my refresh intervals within bet angel in the markets on both machines for simplicty to refresh every 1 second. however theres still a discrepency... Has anyone seen this before and has any top tips they can give me to phase this out. its really annoying :? :? :? :? :?
Is one in practice mode and one in real mode?
Emtaxx
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I've put them both into Live mode (real) so there is no discrepency however, Im noticing one is place more bets than the other and also discrepency when both machines place a bet, theyre a slightly different times resulting in slightly differnt purchase prices etc. my laptops runs between 10 to 25%CPU and my PC just sits at 10% memory on laptop is 30% and PC 25%. Something not in sync it sjust finding what it is. as annoyingly my pc is making more money than my Laptop ...
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jamesedwards
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Emtaxx wrote:
Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:22 pm
I've put them both into Live mode (real) so there is no discrepency however, Im noticing one is place more bets than the other and also discrepency when both machines place a bet, theyre a slightly different times resulting in slightly differnt purchase prices etc
Even if both are running in live mode, your bets will be hitting the market at very slightly different times based on split second variance in the refresh cycles.
Emtaxx
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I've set them both to 1s on the market refresh. I have also set up indipendant signals so I can seperate whats happening. I may alter it to 2 seconds and see if that could help? I just want to know what the route cause or casues are really. theyre also on the same net work too
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Emtaxx wrote:
Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:25 pm
I've set them both to 1s on the market refresh. I have also set up indipendant signals so I can seperate whats happening. I may alter it to 2 seconds and see if that could help? I just want to know what the route cause or casues are really. theyre also on the same net work too
Whatever settings you use their refresh cycles will never be exactly in sync. Logic says to me the shorter the refresh rate the lower the opportunity for variance, so the closer the results will get.

If there was infinite money available and prices never moved then they would both match the same. But neither of these are true so one PC might match when the other might be too late. One might be stealing value from the other and so whichever triggers first might have an advantage. Same principle as diminishing EV as stake increases.
Emtaxx
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hmm is an intersting concept.Thing Is I'm only trying to prove out my bot over 500 markets or so and they're only on 30ps so I can see that happening. I think it could be latancy issue with my general laptop maybe not being the quickest as it always seems to behind on the announcment stuff too. so it may just be like half a second for whatever reason behind... and then will see a different oppotunity to my PC as I've just set them both to refresh instantly and still have discrepencies. I have my bet's set to place and refresh once a setup comes along at 1s refresh. so I could lower this to 0.5 so maybe that could help them fall in sync. its just painful to watch my pc do great and my laptop do shit when theyre exaclty the same lol and long run is i leeave that latop on while I work my job to trade automatically for me
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Emtaxx wrote:
Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:45 pm
hmm is an intersting concept.Thing Is I'm only trying to prove out my bot over 500 markets or so and they're only on 30ps so I can see that happening. I think it could be latancy issue with my general laptop maybe not being the quickest as it always seems to behind on the announcment stuff too. so it may just be like half a second for whatever reason behind... and then will see a different oppotunity to my PC as I've just set them both to refresh instantly and still have discrepencies. I have my bet's set to place and refresh once a setup comes along at 1s refresh. so I could lower this to 0.5 so maybe that could help them fall in sync. its just painful to watch my pc do great and my laptop do shit when theyre exaclty the same lol and long run is i leeave that latop on while I work my job to trade automatically for me
If your PC is always beating your laptop then consider upgrading your hardware. But bear in mind your laptop might have mopped up all the opportunities matched on your PC if it had been switched off.

As a general rule of thumb I would have expected it best to run your automations at the fastest possible refresh cycle. You've seen how much difference a split second variance can make.
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ShaunWhite
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Wireless laptop vs wired pc? But best to run it on a VPS anyway if you're at work all day.
Emtaxx
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jamesedwards wrote:
Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:54 pm
Emtaxx wrote:
Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:45 pm
hmm is an intersting concept.Thing Is I'm only trying to prove out my bot over 500 markets or so and they're only on 30ps so I can see that happening. I think it could be latancy issue with my general laptop maybe not being the quickest as it always seems to behind on the announcment stuff too. so it may just be like half a second for whatever reason behind... and then will see a different oppotunity to my PC as I've just set them both to refresh instantly and still have discrepencies. I have my bet's set to place and refresh once a setup comes along at 1s refresh. so I could lower this to 0.5 so maybe that could help them fall in sync. its just painful to watch my pc do great and my laptop do shit when theyre exaclty the same lol and long run is i leeave that latop on while I work my job to trade automatically for me
If your PC is always beating your laptop then consider upgrading your hardware. But bear in mind your laptop might have mopped up all the opportunities matched on your PC if it had been switched off.

As a general rule of thumb I would have expected it best to run your automations at the fastest possible refresh cycle. You've seen how much difference a split second variance can make.
Yeah it diffintely is insightful with a split second can do ... means I need to do better tbh, i need to get an even better endge to rules this out... So far its at a 56% profit ratio but thats only over 100 markets. 12% roi and 56% strike rate.. VPS is something i cannot afford. I'll need to pay more money for that kinda stuff
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jamesedwards
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:11 pm
Wireless laptop vs wired pc? But best to run it on a VPS anyway if you're at work all day.
Good point. Even if both are wifi, lots of laptops these days scrimp on build cost by using a 1x1 chip instead of 2x2.
Emtaxx
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They are both wifi. I only have wifi on them
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jamesedwards
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Emtaxx wrote:
Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:31 pm
They are both wifi. I only have wifi on them
What model laptop are you using?
Emtaxx
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Its a Latitude E5570

i7-6820HQ CPU 2.70GHz
16gb ram
amd radeon R7 M370
238 GB SSD
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jamesedwards
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Emtaxx wrote:
Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:42 pm
Its a Latitude E5570

i7-6820HQ CPU 2.70GHz
16gb ram
amd radeon R7 M370
238 GB SSD
Probably a 2x2 wireless config then 8-)
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