Late suspensions at UK greyhound racing today

[tryingtotrade]

My Guardian greyhound automation has made significant losses for the past 4 days which I thought were not in the normal range at all.
Because of that I watched some races and looking at the price movement right before the off. It is obvious that a bettor was able to beat the suspension today at both Star Pelaw and Towcester.
About 3 seconds before suspension big amounts would be placed on mostly the favourite if it started well or against it if it missed the start. In one instance there even was enough time for the person to change his betting position as the favourite initially got off to a good start but then caught trouble so the price was moved down from 2.5 to about 1.8 and then back up to 3.2 with the market then being suspended about the same time as the race starting in betfair video, which obviously isn’t real time but a few second behind live.
I have turned off my automation now as obviously it is terrible value to get matched laying a favourite after it starts well on a sprint race or backing a runner that missed the start.
In the long term is there a chance betfair would fix this and suspend the markets earlier so bets in the market at the off can’t be taken advantage of? Who would you be contacting about it? Thank you.

[tryingtotrade]

The 20:16 Star Pelaw just now the favourite trading at 2.2, 3 seconds before suspension a big amount of money moves the price to 1.9.
A couple of seconds late another at least £1500 bet moves the price to 1.62 which is also then displayed as the start price.
Race replay just now shows the favourite „Dreaming Porcha“ get off to a good start and go on to dominate the race…

Second favourite runner 3 „Ballinabola Eve“ also moves from
being traded at 5s to SP 9.32, couple of seconds before suspension after starting poorly.

It’s really quite obvious that someone is taking advantage of having seen the start of the race.

[jamesedwards]

Use the scheduled off time as a cut off?

[tryingtotrade]

Use the scheduled off time as a cut off?

Is not great for my strategy.

[jamesedwards]

Use the scheduled off time as a cut off?

Is not great for my strategy.

Could be coincidence? So much money comes late. If it continues then get yourself down to one of the tracks and test it for yourself?

[Naffman]

Pretty sure I've seen it too

[tryingtotrade]

Use the scheduled off time as a cut off?

Is not great for my strategy.

Could be coincidence? So much money comes late. If it continues then get yourself down to one of the tracks and test it for yourself?

No chance of coincidence. Too obvious on too many races with too much money moving the price too much. And market only gets suspended right before betfair video.

[jamesedwards]

Is not great for my strategy.

Could be coincidence? So much money comes late. If it continues then get yourself down to one of the tracks and test it for yourself?

No chance of coincidence. Too obvious on too many races with too much money moving the price too much. And market only gets suspended right before betfair video.

Interesting.

I guess it's in Betfair's best interest to leave the market open as long as possible as all the money comes so late, but most likely the market management is someone sat in front of a monitor watching live streams. If they are waiting for the boxes to open on the stream then there's plausibly as much as 2-3 secs for anyone at the track to get a late bet on after lids.

Horse racing looks poor this coming Sunday so might plan a visit to Towcester!

[napshnap]

13:54 Harlow

6. CHATELAINE ~15 to 6.8 SP - QAw,ALd.
2. DEACON JUMPY ~5 to 10.6 SP - BBmp1.

Was it him? One big gready value stealing stinking piece of turd.

[bobalski]

Was it him? One big gready value stealing stinking piece of turd.

Remember, it's only a rort if you're not in on it...

[napshnap]

Was it him? One big gready value stealing stinking piece of turd.

Remember, it's only a rort if you're not in on it...

I personally would not participate in such a thing. I can earn here without a "handicap for losers".

[ShaunWhite]

Was it him? One big gready value stealing stinking piece of turd.

Remember, it's only a rort if you're not in on it...

I thought that was the job description. There's no Queensbury's when there's money to be made.

[jamesedwards]

Was it him? One big gready value stealing stinking piece of turd.

Remember, it's only a rort if you're not in on it...

I thought that was the job description. There's no Queensbury's when there's money to be made.

Absolutely. You can't sit there day in day out taking other people's money and then complain when the tables are turned.

But in all seriousness, Betfair need to sort this out. No good having SP betting if it's going to be consistently ruined by weak market management. Will eventually kill the SP markets.

[napshnap]

Remember, it's only a rort if you're not in on it...

I thought that was the job description. There's no Queensbury's when there's money to be made.

Absolutely. You can't sit there day in day out taking other people's money and then complain when the tables are turned.

But in all seriousness, Betfair need to sort this out. No good having SP betting if it's going to be consistently ruined by weak market management. Will eventually kill the SP markets.

Yeah thats the point, SP means "Starting" "Price" not a "Bunch of douches stole the value while the manager went to a bathroom to ruin a toilet after he ate a spoiled burrito" "Price".

[jamesedwards]

I thought that was the job description. There's no Queensbury's when there's money to be made.

Absolutely. You can't sit there day in day out taking other people's money and then complain when the tables are turned.

But in all seriousness, Betfair need to sort this out. No good having SP betting if it's going to be consistently ruined by weak market management. Will eventually kill the SP markets.

Yeah thats the point, SP means "Starting" "Price" not a "Bunch of douches stole the value while the manager went to a bathroom to ruin a toilet after he ate a spoiled burrito" "Price".

I like this new terminology. SBP = "spoiled burrito price".