I would love a piece of automation that does this - any help appreciated

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bests3lleruk
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This may have already been done or something similar so a pointer in the general direction would be great.

Basically this is what I want to do. I want a piece of automation that will look at a specific designated race, and at the off place a back bet into the market a set percentage above the SP fav. So If the favourite is say 3.0, I want it to place a fill or kill back bet valid for 30 seconds say for example 50% higher, so at 4.5. Then providing that is matched place a corresponding lay bet 50% lower than the back bet, so 2.25, with greening. So basically I want to take advantage of the early stages of a race when the SP fav might drift but then come back in later.

I have no found any current piece of automation that can do this. Though I know it's possible I just don't know how to set it up.

Any help much appreciated as I'm a relative newcomer to automation.

Thanks
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Dallas
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Here you go, just amend the percentages as required and add the offset part on the parameters tab
viewtopic.php?t=17936
bests3lleruk
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Thanks that's great, just what I needed. I'll tinker with this.

Many thanks
bests3lleruk
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Hi Dallas, I have a question. I set up a simple back bet rule, based on the SP, but I wanted to choose the favourite in a race (without necessarily knowing what the favourite is or I'd simply nominate it), so I chose 'by position (sorted in order of favouritism)' but it activated on the third favourite (very competitive race three were around 6.0 but this one was 3rd at 6.8). So how is it ascertaining which is favourite? Would it be better to do 'in row 1 (Betfair order) - as this will usually be the favourite but sometimes if there's a gamble on something else, this isn't the favourite.

Many thanks
TheProfit
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Greetings deadset legends.

I have spent countless hours doing my best to produce an automation. I started from scratch, I have used Grok, BetAngel AI, explored shared files and modified files beyond recognition. I am a beaten man.

I am after the following automation.

Ability to nominate up to 4 Nominated :Selections
Provide PROPER dutch staking to these selections
Ability to trigger these bets pre off, IF the sum of the runners percentages is under a nominated market percentage.

I am willing to pay a fee for this.

Thanking you in advance.
sionascaig
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TheProfit wrote:
Sun Aug 24, 2025 11:40 am
Greetings deadset legends.

I have spent countless hours doing my best to produce an automation. I started from scratch, I have used Grok, BetAngel AI, explored shared files and modified files beyond recognition. I am a beaten man.

I am after the following automation.

Ability to nominate up to 4 Nominated :Selections
Provide PROPER dutch staking to these selections
Ability to trigger these bets pre off, IF the sum of the runners percentages is under a nominated market percentage.

I am willing to pay a fee for this.

Thanking you in advance.
Just modify this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgOdakQ ... l=BetAngel
jtrader
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TheProfit wrote:
Sun Aug 24, 2025 11:40 am
Greetings deadset legends.

I have spent countless hours doing my best to produce an automation. I started from scratch, I have used Grok, BetAngel AI, explored shared files and modified files beyond recognition. I am a beaten man.

I am after the following automation.

Ability to nominate up to 4 Nominated :Selections
Provide PROPER dutch staking to these selections
Ability to trigger these bets pre off, IF the sum of the runners percentages is under a nominated market percentage.

I am willing to pay a fee for this.

Thanking you in advance.

No need to pay even a penny for this ;) .Just use that video sionascaig pointed in previous post.

Read that topic from Dallas - viewtopic.php?p=152124#p152124

And some topics of dutching on forum.

And use a little math how to calculate stakes for dutching...
TheProfit
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Thanks team. Appreciate the feedback. I have done all these but without success. Firstly, it's not proper dutching. I believe a CALC needs to be used ??? And signals to be added ?? Who knows. Yes there is advice to do this in other posts..

Appreciate the feedback.

Disregard.

I will look elsewhere.

You can close this.
jtrader
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TheProfit wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 1:41 am
Thanks team. Appreciate the feedback. I have done all these but without success. Firstly, it's not proper dutching. I believe a CALC needs to be used ??? And signals to be added ?? Who knows. Yes there is advice to do this in other posts..

Appreciate the feedback.

Disregard.

I will look elsewhere.

You can close this.

Calculating dutching stake is easy - SUM of Implied Probability of Chosen Runners ( SumIP ) , Implied Probability of every chosen Runner ( ImP1,ImP2 and etc. ) ; Total Dutching Stake ( TDS )

And then if you wish to calculate Stake for Runner1 = TDS * ImP1 / SumIP ,

Stake for Runner2 = TDS * ImP2 / SumIP and etc.

You could compare S with value what you wish as a condition that rule to trigger so.

Read on here how to use Bet Angel - https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/

Or ask Bet Angel AI support if it's not clear -
https://www.betangel.com/support/ai-support-center/
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