greyhound nomination question

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Andyx
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Hi, i have a question good people - can someone please tell me how i can nominate a dog, but only fire if its volume rank is 4, 5 or 6.
I've had a play, and i just can't make it happen. i've tried to store the rank - but it just fires the nominated dogs regardless of their volume rank.

Cheers.
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ShaunWhite
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Rank is the order of favouritism. To rank by volume you'd have to store the volumes and establish what order they're in. A guardian user will probably advise you. But I'd be suprised if the 3 highest price dogs weren't also the ones with the lowest traded volume.
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jamesedwards
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Create a customer ranking using volume.
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Then use the custom ranking as a condition.
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ShaunWhite
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I tell you what James, I'm going to stop trying to answer Guardian questions 😁. A lot has been added since I used it. I might skim read the release notes but that's about it.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:10 pm
I tell you what James, I'm going to stop trying to answer Guardian questions 😁. A lot has been added since I used it. I might skim read the release notes but that's about it.
You're the genius IMO being able to bypass Guardian. For me I have no programming ability so need to know the tool inside out.
Andyx
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Thanks guys - i struggle with stuff like this to be honest - i did try to follow some Betangel vids on custom lists - but just couldn't seem to make it work. I'll have another crack at it perhaps. I'll post if it's possible what i made - but it doesn't always fire as intended. I'm not too surprised as i went about it totally wrong i feel.

Thanks again.
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jamesedwards
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Here you go.
Lay volume 4,5,6 v2.baf
I don't know if you wanted to fire in the top 3 for volume or the bottom 3 for volume so I've set this to be the bottom 3. If you want the top three then just change the relative odds condition accordingly.

This will only work for 6 dog races, no issue if you're only doing UK greyhounds..

I removed the requirement for the fav to be <5.0 as this will always be the case. There is no need for "All must be true" groupings. I amended the trigger time from 5 to 0 secs out, to 30 to 0 secs out to make sure the refresh cycle hits your market.
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Andyx
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Thanks a lot James for sending v2 file of the strategy - i'm really grateful for it. At least now i can have a look at it and work out how it's done the right way :)
Best regards
Andyx
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Thinking about it, i will include the condition back odds of rank 1 volume is under 3.00. This should ensure the favourite is fairly strong. Also as well you mentioned v2 will only work on 6 dog races. I don't know if i have done the right thing - but changed the custom volume rank to ascending instead of descending, and on the DOG A and B bits, I've changed it to 'greater than' if my logic serves me correct, that should take the bottom 3 regardless of how many in the race.
please tell me if this the right thing to do.

thank you
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jamesedwards
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Andyx wrote:
Tue Aug 26, 2025 10:24 am
Thinking about it, i will include the condition back odds of rank 1 volume is under 3.00. This should ensure the favourite is fairly strong. Also as well you mentioned v2 will only work on 6 dog races. I don't know if i have done the right thing - but changed the custom volume rank to ascending instead of descending, and on the DOG A and B bits, I've changed it to 'greater than' if my logic serves me correct, that should take the bottom 3 regardless of how many in the race.
please tell me if this the right thing to do.

thank you
Depends if you want to trade on the selections with the top 3 or bottom 3 volumes.
Andyx
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I was hoping to enable it so it would place the bets on the bottom 3 regardless of how many runners in the race. Unfortunately it didn't work out the way I tweaked it, and have since reverted back to your original offering. I wanted the bottom 3 in say a 5 dog race, but with yours it will not place a bet on the top 3, so I only have the bottom 2 as potential bets in a 5 dog race....Other than the file is working nicely 👍
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Andyx wrote:
Wed Aug 27, 2025 6:48 pm
I was hoping to enable it so it would place the bets on the bottom 3 regardless of how many runners in the race. Unfortunately it didn't work out the way I tweaked it, and have since reverted back to your original offering. I wanted the bottom 3 in say a 5 dog race, but with yours it will not place a bet on the top 3, so I only have the bottom 2 as potential bets in a 5 dog race....Other than the file is working nicely 👍
Rank by ascending, then use an OR condition grouping:
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Atho55
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These are a from a bit of data I collect daily. The 1yr is just a summary of the 1day. Stake from memory is £5 Back and £10 Lay.
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Grey 1yr ROV.png
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