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Euler
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I have an AI agent attending a meeting for me this morning for the first time. Should be fun, or a disaster. One of the two!
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ShaunWhite
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Euler wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 10:56 am
I have an AI agent attending a meeting for me this morning for the first time. Should be fun, or a disaster. One of the two!
If you want to put some odds on that I might be interested. :)

Word of warning, I'd been talking about some medical issues with chat, half way through a thread about work it bugged out and started talking about my more personal thread. If there's anything you've spoken to it about that you don't want all over the meeting then take heed. 🤔
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Euler wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 10:56 am
I have an AI agent attending a meeting for me this morning for the first time. Should be fun, or a disaster. One of the two!
Interesting ... I'm having a problem getting my head around what Agents actually do and can be used for. ... what are you asking the Agent to report on?
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Kai
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Bill Gates in Nov 9, 2023 : "Companies will be able to make agents available for their employees to consult directly and be part of every meeting so they can answer questions."

Only a matter of time before the AI agent handles first dates too. Or date other agents to work out the damn compatibility.
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Kai wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 11:51 am

Only a matter of time before the AI agent handles first dates too. Or date other agents to work out the damn compatibility.
Eh, just need to ask star sign & sorted !

Which reminds me, I wonder what happened to that person that wanted to use the stars to support his trading - just a case of collecting enough data apparently...
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sionascaig wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 1:36 pm
Kai wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 11:51 am

Only a matter of time before the AI agent handles first dates too. Or date other agents to work out the damn compatibility.
Eh, just need to ask star sign & sorted !

Which reminds me, I wonder what happened to that person that wanted to use the stars to support his trading - just a case of collecting enough data apparently...
Lol, think I do remember someone using moon data or something to place their bets, if that's the one

Yes, slightly over the top backtesting against things like lunar cycles or goat migration patterns etc

“They said you can never collect enough data. That's where the value is, they said.” :mrgreen:
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Kai wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:05 pm
Yes, slightly over the top backtesting against things like ... goat migration patterns etc
Well we have our own resident expert! :lol:
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LeTiss
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I concede defeat......completely!

I've been slow to embrace Chat GPT due to my absolute hatred of AI and it's future impact

However, I had a mental block on an automated bot I was creating......and Chat GPT had the answer.
Bastard thing :lol: :lol:
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Kai
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Rubber duck debugging is a killer combo with AI, like talking to yourself but better

You can basically have zero expertise and within hours still create something functional at an expert level, which would potentially take months/years/never otherwise

Even at this very early AI stage... 30 years ago Vernor Vinge predicted The Singularity event by 2030ish which almost sounds about right

While Kurzweil's latest prediction has AGI by 2029 and Singularity by 2039... STONKS 📈
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LeTiss
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I get that, you're absolutely right.

Years ago, when I was far more active on this forum, I actually deactivated my private messages!
I got fed up with newbies and lazy bastards wanting me to share my edge with them, despite my years of hard work in developing it

AI is perfect for all those lazy fuckers, who just want a shortcut to successful strategies
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LeTiss wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 4:46 pm
AI is perfect for all those lazy fuckers, who just want a shortcut to successful strategies
There isn't much to worry about just yet, it's clueless and just suggests naive claptrap.

Not a strategy below, but to demo the lack of understanding it has about Betfair, and all said with a completely straight face.......:

When a new market is created, Betfair bulk-inserts all its runners. Those inserts get consecutive or near-consecutive selectionIds.

So if you see 81862562 … 81862578, that’s literally Betfair allocating 17 new IDs in one go for that race’s horses.

The same horse (same name) running in different races will be given different selectionIds each time. That’s why you didn’t see those numbers in your April training data — they were generated later in March for that race specifically.

So:
It’s expected that selectionIds cluster consecutively within one race.
It’s also expected that you’ll never get the same cluster again in training unless you included that exact market.
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ShaunWhite
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At last !
No more thread clutter or slowing when they get big, full context forwarding.

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ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:18 pm
At last !
No more thread clutter or slowing when they get big, full context forwarding.
Not sure if that solves the issue of long threads which is usually the problem of number of tokens - if it all comes across you'd still be stuffed with token limits in the new thread or if not then some context - possibly significant - must be discarded.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:44 pm
LeTiss wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 4:46 pm
AI is perfect for all those lazy fuckers, who just want a shortcut to successful strategies
There isn't much to worry about just yet, it's clueless and just suggests naive claptrap.
Exactly, we prematurely use the term AI but it's built from a LLM after all

If it's trained by the masses it will think and reply like the masses

It can augment your hard work, but can't substitute it just yet!
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foxwood wrote:
Thu Sep 11, 2025 9:04 am
ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:18 pm
At last !
No more thread clutter or slowing when they get big, full context forwarding.
Not sure if that solves the issue of long threads which is usually the problem of number of tokens - if it all comes across you'd still be stuffed with token limits in the new thread or if not then some context - possibly significant - must be discarded.
Doesn't help existing ones but new ones can be managed better.
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