Volume Tracker

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Emtaxx
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Hi all,

I've attached a volume tracker. But its not working as I'd expect it too. I just want to monitor when someone places lay bets amounts.

I thought I could just do this with the matched bet infomation of a selection. However annoyginly this only tracks my own bets.... So i have to create soemthing, but it seems more tricker than I expected.

Just womdering if someone could take a look and see if they can point me in the right direction or rectify it so it works for tracking bets/volume that enter the market.

Thx
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jamesedwards
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Emtaxx wrote:
Sun Sep 28, 2025 4:37 pm
Hi all,

I've attached a volume tracker. But its not working as I'd expect it too. I just want to monitor when someone places lay bets amounts.

I thought I could just do this with the matched bet infomation of a selection. However annoyginly this only tracks my own bets.... So i have to create soemthing, but it seems more tricker than I expected.

Just womdering if someone could take a look and see if they can point me in the right direction or rectify it so it works for tracking bets/volume that enter the market.

Thx
Are you talking about traded volume or available volume?
Emtaxx
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I'm talking about the the traded volume, So i can track where the money is going. so to monitor if someone places a lay of 300 and then another or 40 etc. its just to track the flow of money
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jamesedwards
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Emtaxx wrote:
Sun Sep 28, 2025 4:45 pm
I'm talking about the the traded volume, So i can track where the money is going. so to monitor if someone places a lay of 300 and then another or 40 etc. its just to track the flow of money
Obviously you can track traded volume, volume available, and changes in volume available easily enough. But I don't think there is any way on Bet Angel to distinguish between volume entering and volume withdrawing. ie you don't know whether a £1k increase in volume is made up of £1k being added, or £1.5k being added and £500 being cancelled.

That said, I don't know how Bet Angel tracks your position in the queue, or how accurate that is.
Emtaxx
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Well in my upload I've attached i've put:

LAY_VOL_PREV = LAY_VOL_NOW

Then

LAY_VOL_NOW with 'the volume traded at a price for a selection' with 'the best lay price of a slection'

Then

LAY_VOL_DELTA = LAY_VOL_NOW - LAY_VOL_PREV

But i'ts not working as expected and not sure why as I though this is how you would track the volume thats added to the price :/ not sure what trick I'm, missing here
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jamesedwards
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Emtaxx wrote:
Sun Sep 28, 2025 4:59 pm
Well in my upload I've attached i've put:

LAY_VOL_PREV = LAY_VOL_NOW

Then

LAY_VOL_NOW with 'the volume traded at a price for a selection' with 'the best lay price of a slection'

Then

LAY_VOL_DELTA = LAY_VOL_NOW - LAY_VOL_PREV

But i'ts not working as expected and not sure why as I though this is how you would track the volume thats added to the price :/ not sure what trick I'm, missing here
Is it because you're using volume at 'the best lay price', but this price will be changing all the time?
Emtaxx
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Yes that's true I can create a nother SV that can then store a conditon on this to say if the last price is the same as the prev price then execute the vol change.

But seperating that. What do you thinks the best thing I should use instead?
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jamesedwards
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Emtaxx wrote:
Sun Sep 28, 2025 5:19 pm
Yes that's true I can create a nother SV that can then store a conditon on this to say if the last price is the same as the prev price then execute the vol change.

But seperating that. What do you thinks the best thing I should use instead?
I don't think it's possible to break out the figure of money being added at a price because there is no visibility of the mix of money entering and money leaving. But if you want to see at working then just use a fixed price at first so you can check if it's working as you expect.

If you're interested in weight of money then have you explored using the 'weight of money' attributes?

https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/wei ... lay%20side.
Emtaxx
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I've created a more sphisticated version of the WOM of what BA has by default and even then WOM is pretty gimmicky tbh.

I just need to track the money flow of matched amounts is all but seems tricky lol. Matched amount information is perfect however its only for the user lol.
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jamesedwards
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Emtaxx wrote:
Sun Sep 28, 2025 5:27 pm
I've created a more sphisticated version of the WOM of what BA has by default and even then WOM is pretty gimmicky tbh.

I just need to track the money flow of matched amounts is all but seems tricky lol. Matched amount information is perfect however its only for the user lol.
You could fix a price near the off, and track the prices above and below using + and - ticks.
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