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eevee
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Interesting case because there are (some) valid arguments on both sides. When there's reasonable evidence of a gambling problem (as in this case) surely the 'VIP treatment' offered by betting companies is inexcusable (for that reason I don't have much sympathy for Betfair here). On the other hand, restrictions that are not self-imposed tend to be deeply problematic on various levels, and a win for Gibson could spell more of that.
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eevee
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That said, the whole thing doesn't sit well with me, call it multimillionaire bias.
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jamesedwards
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Absolute nonsense.

Can I sue a share broker if the shares I buy drop in value? Can I sue Sainsburys because they let me buy enough alcohol to damage my liver? Or my local Newsagent for the 20 fags a day that gave me cancer? Or McDonalds for the amount of BigMacs I chomp through?

What has happened to personal responsibility?
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Euler
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Current legislation means this sort of thing is impossible now, so a bit of a speculative claim.

But yes, I agree, personal responsibility would sort out a lot of what is wrong with the world. Too many people blame others for their shortcomings.
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I guess you could argue that for all those given examples of overconsumption, the safety net is the NHS, they will backstop your poor life choices, no matter what you do.

But who's backstopping your gambling addiction?

If you were your local Sainsbury's largest drinker and they were taking you out for a golfing holiday once a year, I'm sure that would raise some eyebrows...
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jamesedwards wrote:
Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:32 pm
What has happened to personal responsibility?
I definitely share the general sentiment, it's all gone topsy-turvy. But I also think that McDonalds et al have a lot to answer for.
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Goobs wrote:
Thu Oct 16, 2025 3:09 pm
I guess you could argue that for all those given examples of overconsumption, the safety net is the NHS, they will backstop your poor life choices, no matter what you do.

But who's backstopping your gambling addiction?

If you were your local Sainsbury's largest drinker and they were taking you out for a golfing holiday once a year, I'm sure that would raise some eyebrows...
In any other industry, it would be totally normal behaviour to offer some hospitality for a 7-figure account.

Sainsburys wouldn't be expected to take my nectar card away from me because I was buying too much booze.
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Only in terms of gifting and not when it leads to personal/financial harm....

Also, a heavily regulated area under the Bribery Act of 2010....
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eevee wrote:
Thu Oct 16, 2025 3:10 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:32 pm
What has happened to personal responsibility?
I definitely share the general sentiment, it's all gone topsy-turvy. But I also think that McDonalds et al have a lot to answer for.
The way it's going it's only a matter of time before people start sueing them for diet choices. But I doubt it will stop at companies...

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jamesedwards wrote:
Thu Oct 16, 2025 3:27 pm
"Ever been offended by something you've seen on social media? Just dial 1-900-OFFEND to get the compensation YOU deserve!"
Love that, yep the regulation route is deeply unsettling alright. All I would say is that negligent and predatory behaviour in the name of capitalism is another road to hell.
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I think we crossed that bridge a long, long time ago lol
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Never went to one because i didn't want to miss out on trading days but these VIP meets must have had an bizarre dynamic back in the day. Mixing the big losers with the the very people fleecing them, did the losers just pretend they were winners?
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Goobs wrote:
Thu Oct 16, 2025 4:54 pm
I think we crossed that bridge a long, long time ago lol
Well, Trump would say that there's plenty of room left for improvement...
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