Mysteries of practice mode

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guy333
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Testing systems is so frustrating when two sets of rules are almost exactly the same but produce different results.

I am trying out two systems, the only difference is that the stop loss is slightly more cautious on the version one.

Lo and behold the first race of today the back bet triggers on system two at a different time than the back bet on system one, so the stop loss triggers on the less cautious system but does not trigger on the more cautious system even though the back bet conditions are exactly the same for both.

It seems the only reliable way to test is in live mode, which could be quite expensive.
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jamesedwards
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guy333 wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 12:01 pm
Testing systems is so frustrating when two sets of rules are almost exactly the same but produce different results.

I am trying out two systems, the only difference is that the stop loss is slightly more cautious on the version one.

Lo and behold the first race of today the back bet triggers on system two at a different time than the back bet on system one, so the stop loss triggers on the less cautious system but does not trigger on the more cautious system even though the back bet conditions are exactly the same for both.

It seems the only reliable way to test is in live mode, which could be quite expensive.
Practice mode is excellent for testing rules are triggering as and when you are expecting.

But it's less useful for testing profitability for several reasons;
> You're not part of the market in practice mode. When you become part of the market you add negative pressure to the price you achieve
> Bets in practice mode will match more easily and more completely. eg if there's 10p available at top price then your bet won't use it up because your bet doesn't really exist, so you could match £100 to that 10p.
> Bet placement time is slightly reduced in practice mode because the dummy transaction happens on the host machine rather than travelling to Betfair servers and queuing through their matching process.

The best way to test profitability is in live mode with the smallest possible stakes. Expect ROI% to drop as stakes increase, so increase stakes slow and steady.
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